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Old 04-17-2009, 02:30 AM
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:08 PM
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click for later. i have a good inch of play in gear . went to heartland to run, kept missing 2nd . you know how embarrassing that is!?!?!
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:14 PM
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Yea, I will probably be putting my 3rd roll pin in today... I am a gear grabbin ****.. what can I say?
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:43 PM
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Did you try a better roll pin? The cheap pins you get at Autozone/hardware stores are exactly that.
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Which roller pin would be best to keep from having to replace?
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Old 06-15-2009, 11:59 AM
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I can change them in about 20 minutes... The pins that I bought were about $0.50 a piece from tractor supply.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:40 AM
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changed mine, tok an hour just cause the damn pin would not budge out
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:13 PM
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changed mine, tok an hour just cause the damn pin would not budge out
Did you have to do anything special to get it out other than some elbow grease?
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nothing special. i got some plyers and pulled on the pin, that half came out no prob. the other half wouldnt budge, so i just put the other pin in there and tried to tap it till it pushed it out. theres not much room to get the punch in there, so i put the new pin in as far as it could go and took a wrench and kinda pryed against it and hit the top part with a hammer. that worked best for me.
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:24 PM
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if you wiggle the linkage back and forth while pulling the old one out / pushing the new one in, it moves pretty quickly.
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ill give that a shot next time
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Hers what you do...when said roll pin breaks. Fix it on the side of the road. Once fixed, start car and drive to the nearest Ford dealer and trade it in on a mustang GT...well at least that's what I did...LOL Problem fixed and I have not looked back.

Seriousley though. When I had my Coby I kept a kit in my trunk with everything I needed to fix that pin. I got so good at it, it would take me less than 20 minutes to fix. With the amount of times that thing broke I just did not want to be anywhere without my kit.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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LOL. I have my 07 GT w/ the TR-3650 5-speed manual. It's definitely a different car from the SS/TC, but the SS/TC still handles better and is just as fast in the straight.
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Originally Posted by Kaisoboy View Post
Hers what you do...when said roll pin breaks. Fix it on the side of the road. Once fixed, start car and drive to the nearest Ford dealer and trade it in on a mustang GT...well at least that's what I did...LOL Problem fixed and I have not looked back.

Seriousley though. When I had my Coby I kept a kit in my trunk with everything I needed to fix that pin. I got so good at it, it would take me less than 20 minutes to fix. With the amount of times that thing broke I just did not want to be anywhere without my kit.
holy ****!!! congrats! you bought one of the slowest v8 peformance cars on the market! Even half of the v6 and 4banger performance cars roast mustangs.
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holy ****!!! congrats! you bought one of the slowest v8 peformance cars on the market! Even half of the v6 and 4banger performance cars roast mustangs.
Never did I say it is the fastest car on the road. Never did I say the Coby was not fast as well. I had mine up to almost 300 hp but it is just not built to handle the HP, trust me I know. So don't tell me I reap what I sow. The Coby was in the shop more than it was on the road. Yes there are 4 bangers out there pushing serious HP and could probably take me. I will tell you this though, there is not a cobalt ss/sc or ss/tc around my town that will blow me away. It would be a pretty close race, yes but it would come down to driver. That and the fact that my car is pushing close to 335 rwhp @ 308 rwtq naturally aspirated. With a supercharger/turbo that most 4/6 bangers have, I would rape them with 500 rwhp @ 480 rwtq if I installed one also. There are a lot of nice cars out there and I don't put down any vehicle that any one person drives. If you like the car you are driving then great.

Short storey for you: I came up on a 350 Z the other day and we went from a 50 roll. He was turbo'd and I still took him by two car lengths before we shut her down. We pulled off to the side of the road and had a bit of a discussion about our two cars. The only reason I took him is because of torque and gearing. He had a very nice car and we both complimented each other and went our separate ways with no hard feelings. That is what it is to be a real car enthusiast. It's a passion for all things on four wheels. my previous comment was only a joke if you kept reading you would of realized that.

Learn your facts before putting your foot in your mouth.

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LOL. I have my 07 GT w/ the TR-3650 5-speed manual. It's definitely a different car from the SS/TC, but the SS/TC still handles better and is just as fast in the straight.
Yes, I would have to agree with you that the TC does handle better but the mustang was never meant as a track car it was meant to go in a straight line unless you put the ford performance handling pack on the car.. Stock for stock I would say they are close, taking in power to weight. Now I would say that the TC staged would be a formidable car to race and yes would probably take a stock GT hands down but I would still take my stang over a Coby any day. Just my personal preference. Enjoy both your cars.

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Old 07-07-2009, 04:49 AM
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I have to admit, when you switch from the F35/MU3 in the Cobalt SS/TC to the TR-3650 in the Stang, the TR-3650 feels like a precision German gearbox.
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I thought the sloppy f35 trans was what all german transmissions felt like? lmao
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sub'd and thanks this just happened to me
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I used to think the 3650 in my GT was a POS, but after driving the SS/TC and going back, the 3650 is a much much better gearbox. I can hear a "snickt" whenever I shift through the gates and the shifter itself feels very solid.

The worst shifter feel has to be those 6-speed gearboxes with the push-down safety mechanism for reverse (ala the Mazdaspeed3). It feels very flimsy, like I would snap the shifter off at any time. At least the F35 shifter just feels rubbery, and not as flimsy as the MS3 shifter.
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tighten up the bolts on the tranny mount and the rubbery feel decreases alot too a more solid feel

like a new sts

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I just switched out my stock shifter and replaced it with a B&M sport shifter with 30% less throw and I have to admit that it is bang on compared to the OEM. Nice short shifts with a spring loaded 2nd to 3rd shift. from second all I have to do is push directly up and the shifter will automatically slide right into third. Gone is the miss shift. I found that that was the same with my B&M I had in the Coby as long as the roll pin was new. I used to swap out the roll pin before race night.

The other thing here is we are talking two totally diferent trans. The F35 shifter mechanism is guided by wire linkage and that is where the soft feeling lies as the cables will stretch under extreme tension. The TR 3650 shift linkage is solid steel and that is why the shift feels firm and more precise. It will always be hard to launch a front wheel car vs a rear wheel set up. I also find that front wheel transaxles just don't hold up under stress. I have seen a fare share of snapped axles and cracked transaxle cases on the Coby SS/SC. I am not sure what the new TC driveline is like so I can't comment much on that. (Just my own opinion.)

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I used to think the 3650 in my GT was a POS, but after driving the SS/TC and going back, the 3650 is a much much better gearbox. I can hear a "snickt" whenever I shift through the gates and the shifter itself feels very solid.

The worst shifter feel has to be those 6-speed gearboxes with the push-down safety mechanism for reverse (ala the Mazdaspeed3). It feels very flimsy, like I would snap the shifter off at any time. At least the F35 shifter just feels rubbery, and not as flimsy as the MS3 shifter.
You should swap out your stock shifter in the stang for a short throw. You will absolutely be amased by the shift and trani performance.

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Old 07-08-2009, 09:50 PM
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Found my new roll pin replacement today buying a new mailbox at Lowes.... 3/16" x 36" steel rod... now time to cut to 1 1/4" increments, replace and enjoy. by the way, it was only $2.46
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i just fixed mine twice last week ,i got mad the second time so i just put a small bolt, lock washer ,and some thread locker on there. I like to see that fall out or break
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^holy quad post batman!!
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sorry don't be mad at the newb.. but here's the story.. coming home from dinner... stoplight.. go... can't shift into 2nd.. drove around to figure out the issue.. lost 4th.. by the time i got to my driveway i had no gears and could go in circles with my shifter. checked the forums (yep the newb did his homework before asking q's) and the cables are connected on both ends, no plastic connections broken, just no gears, and i think it's the roll pin.

actually quite some time ago i started missing 2nd and sometimes 4th... i thought it was driver error. which was weird cause i'm actually a talented driver - not looking for roasting - i'm just an enthusiast who loves to learn and apply techniques. but could that have been warning signs for now being able to spell your name with the shifter?

sound about right?

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