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Old 03-07-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
well id be a perfect candidate for it, all i have is an h/e and raw intake. so you could see gains on an almost stock balt haha
How far away is your closest dyno shop? How much do they charge?
Old 03-07-2009, 02:34 PM
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i dont remember, i havent looked in a while. BUT i might be able to have a hookup to get a few cheap runs on a dyno...only its like 70 miles away haha...over an hour of driving
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Is the GB still on ?
Old 03-07-2009, 02:53 PM
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nope

Originally Posted by ebristol
Lol. I don't trust my butt dyno. It is always very sensitive after a resent install. And from the tone of this thread is seems like some people's butt dyno is telling them they lost hp.



I understand what you saying. But Dyno numbers are important when measure the differences between setups.

I dyno'd 256hp 238tq with my OTTP Stage 1 kit. Overall the number is not very important to me. BUT when I dyno test performance mods the difference in the dyno results IS important to me.

I was hoping that someone would have taken the time to determine if and what the gains are with this header. I was considering buying on in the future. I was going to get into the group buy but I have yet to see an independent dyno test of this header.
what else did you have on other than ottp stage 1?

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I have a dyno sheet before and after comparison. Lost 8hp gained tq.... don't remember torque numbers off the top of my head.
Old 03-07-2009, 03:00 PM
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yeah, takes away some top end and adds to your lowend...thats why i got this header for the bottom end...but if i could keep the top end it would be nice lol
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Who has one that wants to sell it to me?
Old 03-07-2009, 07:49 PM
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lmfao, g'luck with that one man

hopefully i'll have mine on next weekend
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haha yeah i missed out 2 days... I was out of town and didnt have a computer grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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ALRIGHT, got my noodle install today... not to bad specially with my fancy double flex ratchet wrench :P but i had this horrible exhaust leak after i was done... found out it was the header to downpipe gasket, (yes it was tightened!!!) and i blew a good hole right in the sucker right next to where the O2 sensor is... so kinda S.O.L. i put my stock metal gasket back in and it doesn't leak quite as bad but it still definately leaks in the exactly same spot... anyone else have this problem? i'm really hoping my mating surface isn't warpaged right there...
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
what else did you have on other than ottp stage 1?
GMPP exhaust
zzp dp
magnaflow 2.5"
intake
LS4 tb

Originally Posted by raptors_67
I have a dyno sheet before and after comparison. Lost 8hp gained tq.... don't remember torque numbers off the top of my head.
Could you post those? I would like to see where the gains where made and lost.

You wouldnt have to have an overlay would you?
Old 03-09-2009, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Noir_Destruction
ALRIGHT, got my noodle install today... not to bad specially with my fancy double flex ratchet wrench :P but i had this horrible exhaust leak after i was done... found out it was the header to downpipe gasket, (yes it was tightened!!!) and i blew a good hole right in the sucker right next to where the O2 sensor is... so kinda S.O.L. i put my stock metal gasket back in and it doesn't leak quite as bad but it still definately leaks in the exactly same spot... anyone else have this problem? i'm really hoping my mating surface isn't warpaged right there...
i have a horrible sound i hear when im inside the car im thinking its the same gasket your talking about.
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Originally Posted by andrew97
i have a horrible sound i hear when im inside the car im thinking its the same gasket your talking about.

with the supplied gasket after i blew i'd hear almost a whistling noise when accelerating and now with the metal one it is more of a chirping noise... but only under acceleration
Old 03-09-2009, 01:57 AM
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well I was unable to get it on today. But will try for sure this week. I'm not liking what people are saying so far from results. Would it be better to use OEM gaskets?
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just to give you guys an idea of how uch faster the header makes the car, i have the header, a dp and exhaust, i raced a 335i today, and only lost by 1 car until 120 mph

the car is completely stock other than that setup

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Old 03-09-2009, 02:00 AM
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my gaskets that came with it got kinna f'ed up too
Old 03-09-2009, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Noir_Destruction
with the supplied gasket after i blew i'd hear almost a whistling noise when accelerating and now with the metal one it is more of a chirping noise... but only under acceleration
yeah same here but i only here it with windows up and under acceleration. I might buy a new metal gasket from the dealer and see how that works out.
Old 03-09-2009, 12:25 PM
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the chirping you are hearing is your valves. the new header is more open than the stock one, so its not going to dampen the sound. theres no need to worry
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Originally Posted by ssyellowss
the chirping you are hearing is your valves. the new header is more open than the stock one, so its not going to dampen the sound. theres no need to worry
maybe part of it but i know it is leaking because under the vehicle i can feel the air flowing out...
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Originally Posted by ssyellowss
the chirping you are hearing is your valves. the new header is more open than the stock one, so its not going to dampen the sound. theres no need to worry
hmm interesting that is prob the noise im hearing becuase i dont feel any air flow coming out but its makes a slight chip/lawnmower noise i guess you can saw.
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if it gets faster as you accelerate, like its in sync with your rpms, its valve chatter. completely normal. every gasoline motor has it, just our stock header dampened the noise. mine has a leak to, the gasket from downpipe to resonator is junk. new one should be here tomorrow.
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My gaskets were damaged as well, but they sent me new ones.

I'm putting mine on today. I'll try and get a video if I finish. I don't think there is a video of this header on a 2.4 yet.
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
My gaskets were damaged as well, but they sent me new ones.

I'm putting mine on today. I'll try and get a video if I finish. I don't think there is a video of this header on a 2.4 yet.

oh god i REALLY want to know what this will sound like lol
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that will be pretty cool to hear how it sounds on a 2.4. but its official i will be putting it on next week along with my SLP setup. hope to hear urs soon 1Panel2NV
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I worked on it for a few hours, but I had other stuff to do. Should have it finished tomorrow.

When you look at the header then look at the space behind the engine you're like wtf? There's no way that will fit. But it does, barely lol.


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