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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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THE FIRST MEET OF THE YEAR WILL BE ON THE SECOND SUNDAY IN JAN IN VA BEACH. WE SHOULD MEET AT THE RED STAR TAVERN PARKING LOT AT THE TOWN CENTER AT NOON....SOUND GOOD TO EVERYONE????
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Cool Fun Meets

Anything on for tonight?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rredontheheadd
THE FIRST MEET OF THE YEAR WILL BE ON THE SECOND SUNDAY IN JAN IN VA BEACH. WE SHOULD MEET AT THE RED STAR TAVERN PARKING LOT AT THE TOWN CENTER AT NOON....SOUND GOOD TO EVERYONE????
Sounds good to me red i should have the decals by then so its good!! oh and by the way i think that jumpin should get the first decal because hes the one who made this happen
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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K-MART

Ill see you guys tonight
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Went to Bay today and got mt GMPP drilled and slotted rotors installed . They look nice and they are alot lighter then the stockers. Ill be at Kmart tonight for whoever wants to see.

Thank to Lee and Bay Chevy
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NightriderCobaltSS
Went to Bay today and got mt GMPP drilled and slotted rotors installed . They look nice and they are alot lighter then the stockers. Ill be at Kmart tonight for whoever wants to see.

Thank to Lee and Bay Chevy
can you take a pic and post them
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastforyou
can you take a pic and post them
Here ya go




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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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man i wanna go hoem.. im waitin 4 trhe green light
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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damn those are nice how much they set you back
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Exclamation Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

When I was at Bay Chevy earlier today I sat down with Lee we discussed something that everyone that plans to modify their car should know. It’s called The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Ive bolded the important stuff. If you wanna read the full law I provided a link at the bottom.


Here are some quick excerpts

1. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which states, in part, in Title 15, United States Code, Section 2302, subdivision (c), as follows:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the [Federal Trade] Commission if –

(1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function properly only if the article or service so identified is used in connection with the warranted product, and

(2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest. The Commission shall identify in the Federal Register, and permit public comment on, all applications for waiver of the prohibition of this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal Register its disposition of any such application, including the reasons therefor.”
Under this federal statute, a manufacturer, who issues a warranty on your motor vehicle, is prohibited from requiring you to use a particular brand of air filter, oil filter, or other service or maintenance item, unless such item is provided, free of charge, under your warranty or unless the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) waives this prohibition against the manufacturer.

2. Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, Part 700 - Interpretations Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Contained within these rules and regulations is Section 700.10, which states, in relevant part as follows:
“(c) No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance. For example, provisions such as, "This warranty is void if service is performed by anyone other than an authorized 'ABC' dealer and all replacement parts must be genuine 'ABC' parts," and the like, are prohibited where the service or parts are not covered by the warranty. These provisions violate the Act in two ways. First, they violate the section 102(c) ban against tying arrangements. Second, such provisions are deceptive under section 110 of the Act, because a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of "unauthorized" articles or service. This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by such "unauthorized" articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused.”


If you have encountered a motor vehicle dealer, who has failed and refused to “demonstrate” or prove, as federal law requires, that your Aftermarket part necessitated a repair for which warranty coverage has been denied, or a manufacturer, who refuses to perform warranty repairs on your vehicle, merely because you have installed a Aftermarket part or based on inaccurate information from your dealer, then ask that you request that the dealer or manufacturer set forth, in writing, the warranty denial, together with a written statement as to the specific reasons for the denial of warranty repairs.

But here are some example for the sake of argument i will be the car in question.
Right now i have 3 "aftermarket" parts My K&N CAI , Strut Bar and , Engie Torque dampener.

Ex1. If my filter from my CAI fell off and did damage to the enigine=Not Covered

Ex2. If my power windows/seatbelts stopped working = Still Covered


If you bring you car in for a problem the dealer has to prove that your mod caused the problem in question in order for them to deny that part of the warrenty they cant just void the whole thing they can only void parts.


If anything was incorrect please correct me !!!!!!!!!!!!








http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Hey Will, thanks for the info and the link. I think anyone who is planning on performing mods should read through this and have an understanding of what it means.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Lee what did ya find out on the exhaust?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Im looking at 2 kinds of lights on E-bay

A-- neon tube undercarrige lights $46 shipped


B-- led undercarriage lights $55 shipped


A or B

which should i get
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastforyouraSS
Lee what did ya find out on the exhaust?
I tried to call several times but wasn't able to get through to anyone. I was going to call you, but of course I ran out of work and left your number sittin on my damn desk. I am stopping in tomorrow to finish up some work and I will try them again. Although I am not sure if they are open on saturdays. Worse case is I will know more by tuesday.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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ohh gotcha.. who is goin out to K-mart tomarrow night?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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get the neons symb. anyway so that law basically states you can mod your car?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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ah i get ti if gm installs your mod its not consided a warrenty void
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastforyou
get the neons symb. anyway so that law basically states you can mod your car?
really? why, everyone else says L.E.D
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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no one can say you cant mod your car , Its a FREE country (patriotic music starts playing in the background)

it states in layman's terms that if you have a mod that causes a breakdown the warranty will not cover it
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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yeah i got that. i dunno i guess i just like neons not too much into the leds. too many colors.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SymbioteLT
no one can say you cant mod your car , Its a FREE country (patriotic music starts playing in the background)

it states in layman's terms that if you have a mod that causes a breakdown the warranty will not cover it
yeah i know right ill put a rocket engine on my car if i want to
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SymbioteLT
Im looking at 2 kinds of lights on E-bay

A-- neon tube undercarrige lights $46 shipped


B-- led undercarriage lights $55 shipped


A or B

which should i get
I have neons on my car...I think Adam has neons too.

Pan has LED's....

never had any problems with mine and they are pretty bright....its whatever you want though....
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Cesar is hooking me up with his Neons!!
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:38 AM
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if you want red under your car i would go with LED. Red neons just arnt bright enough for me. i want to upgrade to the red LED's.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SymbioteLT
Cesar is hooking me up with his Neons!!
yeah your welcome sym see you in a little bit dude getting my gauge installed yeah boy!!! hey doc wut happen man thought you were gonna call me dude?
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