diagoclutchkick

am trying to build a 2.2 cobalt scca approve track car wondering if im wasting my time I could register my 2.2 as a ss to turbo it and get a different vin I think just wondering if anyone has any kind of direction to head I have the race school picked out just need help and tips for the build thanks...............

G85 SS

Have you read the rules from SCCA? If not they are below. Pay close attention to section 3 as it pertains to vehicles eligible for competition.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/..._b_reduced.pdf

I have done nothing with SCCA but I'm sure you would fall under the modified section and it would be up to their inspecting technicians to decide if your car is legal(SCCA rules) to compete or not.

It appears that as long as the vehicle is in safe operating condition with proper noise reduction systems you should not have a problem. But again, this is from glancing over those rules posted above. Not reading in depth.

Mr Mall Cop

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Interesting

diagoclutchkick

I read the rules I could of sworn I read another rule book where u had to make the fuel cell in a contained area I don't know maybe I was reading the wrong type of racing and reading more I learned how competitive the cobalt is any suggestions for reliable forced air kits? and thank you for your reply and help

Omiotek

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In any sanctioning body requires a firewall with any sort of fueling in the trunk area.

Whitnith

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I guess I'm confused why you want to register a 2.2 as a SS and get a different VIN (which sounds highly illegal in and of itself) for a track car.

Xmetalhead2003X

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You cannot Vin a car with a new Vin. However, most racing classes are divided by power, weight, parts, aside from safety rules. Foximus runs SCCA with an LT with an m62 on top. Maybe he can chime in on his car and some regulations he has encountered.

chris88z24

Just get an SS and call it a day.

Omiotek

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nasa and scca i believe have a dyno re class rule which will allow you to reclass based on your power to weight ratio. it shouldnt be an issue.

diagoclutchkick

why not buy a ss umm bc I own the coupe and after I upgraded the ss the same way id do the2.2 what would I have to show................an ss on paper......... when all I gotta do wit the low mileage 5-speed 2.2 I got is add a forced induction kit comes down to time and money
as for changing the vin I was only gonna do that if the scca rules said I couldn't used forced induction on a n/a motor but I was mistaken it was for a different class that rule..........illegal not sure about considering im trying to have my car in the right classification but im trying to follow rules

Slowbalt2000

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If you add boost to an NA car im pretty sure youre automatically gonna be put into SMF or street modified fwd

blueLNFftw

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this

exninja

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If you leave it stock (na) then you can race in the appropriate stock class. If you modify it to make it like an ss then you will have to race in a modified class. The car is not an ss so you can't race it as a stock ss. Sorry those are your options.

Whitnith

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Ok.

Let's take some steps back here.

You're wanting to get into SCCA club racing, aka wheel to wheel racing around a road course, yes? Have you sat down and read through the rule book? If not, start there.

Do you have any sort of seat time, be it autocross, track days, anything? Or are you just going to dive into this?

Omiotek

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Listen to Whitney...... You should read a rule book and pick a class you want to be in and modify your car around the rules before you get out with guys you can't compete with

diagoclutchkick

im going to have to contact the scca to get the exact facts the rulebook is not covering all aspects ........ furthermore if I gotta compete wit corvettes and evos im not boosting it my question is would the cobalt 2.2 n/a be competitive against 4cyl cars like the civic jetta ect...... and if that's the case I will just go buy somin boosted already last but not least any reccomendations for a reliable turbo kit I saw Hahn racing and zzp but just trying to get feed back I know companys pay ppl to leave great reviews on there sites so I try to go from word of mouth from ppl who ACTUALLY owned a kit from the companys above

Omiotek

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hondas in any aspect are tough to compete again. they start so low in the field they can nearly do anything and have more then what you will when they are said and done.

all of it comes down to driver. im not sure where your skill resides but i have seen guys get spanked by slow cars because they cant drive their fast car.

Xmetalhead2003X

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Suspension upgrages make the 2.2 a different car. If you're going to boost the 2.2 I suggest you spend the extra to build the motor, rods and pistons. Or have a conservative power tune, unless you want to be shopping for a new motor too.

diagoclutchkick

thank you I was wondering about how the car drives wit the coilovers sway bars ect cause ill strip the car down and do intake exhaust as for driving I like to think im decent I know my lines shifting just have to practice without abs I think your suppose to run no traction no abs hence where the real drivers come out my saying is just cause you bought a rich car doesn't make you rich in skill you know what I mean anybody can drive a fast car a good driver makes a slow car fast....................... I like that saying lol thank you for all the help I love my cobalt I got kids couldn't pursue racing when my twins were born ( I bought the 2door six months before the pregnancy lol figures I was gonna get a four door and they brought a 2 door after 3days wait so I just took it ) what im getting at is this is the car I wanna start racing in im trying to find the place to start and build path towards patricia(that's her name)

Xmetalhead2003X

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If this car is a daily, I don't recommend coilovers. Even if they still say soft ride friendly, they aren't. FE5 components are direct swap to the 2.2. Kyb and yyz are a good budget setup, however the koni will max the potential of the spring/strut and shock options. I can vouch that the KYB and yyz are a good combo, that is what I'm running on my 2.2

diagoclutchkick

just picked up a 2015 legacy turning the cobalt to a fast car period always wanted to go all engine and suspension wise so ill def got for coils but I kinda didn't wanna spend 12 -1500 for kws any others for a grand or lower out ive done springs in my Passat vr6 im not a total noob I just don't know anyone personally whose built a cobalt 2.2 let alone scca race wit it and ty for the recommendation ive just contacted foxinus

exninja

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Do you have any scca experience at all? I would do a ton of research before trying to build a car, esp a 2.2 cobalt. There's probably a reason you haven't heard of many people building them for racing. The idea of "Drive what you bring" is pretty much limited to the hpde events. After that there are cars that make sense to build in a group. I haven't looked into where the cobalt falls. Once you get your license you may have a better idea of what you should build. Spec miata for example might make more sense.

diagoclutchkick

no scca exp case in point im trying to find out all I can before I go in im going in regardless just wondering if I gotta buy a new car

diagoclutchkick

FE5 is the code for the SS

Xmetalhead2003X

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Ideally, for the dollar an ss starts you off better than a 2.2. But some people don't have money to throw around on multiple cars and are trying to make do with what they have. If the cars paid off, why not tinker with it?