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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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i was wondering one is there is really colored nos, and second if there is how do i hook it up like in the movies to shoot out the sides?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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The colors probably come from LEDs and if I understand correctly you can purge it, or shoot it out where ever you'd like.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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you need a purge kit for the NITROUS to blow out. im not sure about the colors i dont think there is.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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purge kits, to keep air out of the lines... you can buy a purge kit that is for show that uses CO2 instead of N2O.. much cheaper if all you want is show. Google purge kits im sure ull find something you like.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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if i use the co2 as the stuff i shot out for show is there away to color co2 or is that still a no?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by goaliedude66630
i was wondering one is there is really colored nos, and second if there is how do i hook it up like in the movies to shoot out the sides?
It's N2O, nitrous oxide or nitrous, not NOS or nos (you've been watching the Fast and the Furious again, right?). NOS is a brand name for a nitrous system.

Colored N2O? Interesting, and I don't see the point (plus any additive would probably mess the stuff up). As for being able to shoot it out your windshield squirters, the sides of the car, or your butt, for that matter, it's the purge valve. The theory originally was that once you arm the system, you hit the purge valve to make sure the lines are full of N2O. Then when the solenoid activates, there's no lag. Truth is, the lag between the solenoid firing and the nitrous hitting the injector has to be like miliseconds with the pressure that stuff is under, so it's really all for show. And it's a waste of perfectly good N2O.

Wouldn't you rather have them think your car is stock instead of showing your hand in advance?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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if you get a purge kit ill sell ya my never used Zex green led purge lites... thats what causes it to look green ..

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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sorry i keep saying nos instead of N20 its a habbit.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LewiSS
It's N2O, nitrous oxide or nitrous, not NOS or nos (you've been watching the Fast and the Furious again, right?). NOS is a brand name for a nitrous system.

Colored N2O? Interesting, and I don't see the point (plus any additive would probably mess the stuff up). As for being able to shoot it out your windshield squirters, the sides of the car, or your butt, for that matter, it's the purge valve. The theory originally was that once you arm the system, you hit the purge valve to make sure the lines are full of N2O. Then when the solenoid activates, there's no lag. Truth is, the lag between the solenoid firing and the nitrous hitting the injector has to be like miliseconds with the pressure that stuff is under, so it's really all for show. And it's a waste of perfectly good N2O.

Wouldn't you rather have them think your car is stock instead of showing your hand in advance?
oh christ, don't flame him... he dosen't know any better.
BTW you can't color nitrous oxide.. dont know about C02 though.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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it's not worth getting if all your gonna do is shoot it up in the air... in that case just use c02 it looks the same..

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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yeah you can purge out of anywahere as long as you have a kit. the coloring like you see in midnight club racer or whatever is only acheivable by leds it's like a light on the end of your purge tube that comes on when you purge it.

think of it like when you shin a laser pointer through a smokey room you can see the beam same concept the light bounces off the nitrouse particals and viola colors.

I am not impressed by coloerd nitrouse purges!
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LewiSS
It's N2O, nitrous oxide or nitrous, not NOS or nos (you've been watching the Fast and the Furious again, right?). NOS is a brand name for a nitrous system.

Colored N2O? Interesting, and I don't see the point (plus any additive would probably mess the stuff up). As for being able to shoot it out your windshield squirters, the sides of the car, or your butt, for that matter, it's the purge valve. The theory originally was that once you arm the system, you hit the purge valve to make sure the lines are full of N2O. Then when the solenoid activates, there's no lag. Truth is, the lag between the solenoid firing and the nitrous hitting the injector has to be like miliseconds with the pressure that stuff is under, so it's really all for show. And it's a waste of perfectly good N2O.

Wouldn't you rather have them think your car is stock instead of showing your hand in advance?
haha! someone else shares my pain!

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i was wondering one is there is really colored nos, and second if there is how do i hook it up like in the movies to shoot out the sides?
as said, it's all in lighting. ZEX makes one as does maybe one other company, but if you wanted you could basically take a cluster of LED's and aim them to backlight the area where the nitrous exits the purge lead. if this is your only need, just use co2 as it's the same color and much cheaper than n2o will be per pound.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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oh christ, don't flame him... he dosen't know any better.
BTW you can't color nitrous oxide.. dont know about C02 though.

Sorry. It's been a bad week. I'm just a Crotchety Old Man sometimes!

My sincerest apologies. Not everyone this board is a flamer like me!
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by goaliedude66630
i was wondering one is there is really colored nos, and second if there is how do i hook it up like in the movies to shoot out the sides?
, dont forget the underglow kit too , and the flamese coming from your exhaust
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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http://www.compperformancegroupstore...&Store_Code=ZX

this is a link to the zex led purge kit....im sure there are other places that make them..but its a start.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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yeah thats the one I was talking about

honestly though, I really only see these on show car, its excessive at best lol
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Don't listen to this guy. Seriously.
lol yeah ignore the only coherent post in the thread, good job
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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lol yeah ignore the only coherent post in the thread, good job
just for the record I write half my post intoxicated so............. ha!
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by uthinkimodd
just for the record I write half my post intoxicated so............. ha!
you probably also took english class half intoxicated also
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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He said purging a nitrous system is useless because the only reason to purge is to "eliminate the lag". This is completely WRONG. So good job sticking up for someone that coherently doesn't know that hell he is talking about.
clearing out the broken down n2o in the line keeps the car from bogging down when you first begin to spray. while on these FWD cars it's not really going to be noticed as much since wheelspin is a reality to deal with, you will see that good drivers who know how to pedal out of the whole will lose up to a few tenths from just that. you purge that out and you don't have that instant bogging and loss of power. it also would make a difference from a roll too on say a highway pull or mid-stretch on a decent straight in a road course.

most people use it strictly to flex before walking someone, and some just use it to imitate. for most shots anyone on this board is running, you can just spray when you shake off your street tires, or heat up your track tires, and get the same effect.

pretty sure that's a coherent statement, thanks lol
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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clearing out the broken down n2o in the line keeps the car from bogging down when you first begin to spray. while on these FWD cars it's not really going to be noticed as much since wheelspin is a reality to deal with, you will see that good drivers who know how to pedal out of the whole will lose up to a few tenths from just that. you purge that out and you don't have that instant bogging and loss of power. it also would make a difference from a roll too on say a highway pull or mid-stretch on a decent straight in a road course.

most people use it strictly to flex before walking someone, and some just use it to imitate. for most shots anyone on this board is running, you can just spray when you shake off your street tires, or heat up your track tires, and get the same effect.

pretty sure that's a coherent statement, thanks lol
Hey, I never claimed to know EVERYTHING! So I have been mis-informed by the nitrous racers I've been around. However, if it were mine, I'd mount the purge somewhere un-noticable. I do appreciate shooting it into the engine compartment might not be the best of ideas, though
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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well like I said, it is useful, BUT you don't need it in most cases. I dont use it at the track since I have to heat up my tires before a run, so it is fine then. I have used it on courses and highways though to get rid of the dead line area.

anyone who has it will tell you though, it's basically used to get attention on a street car. I have mine mounted where you really don't see it, and it still catches eyes because that sound is fairly specific lol.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LewiSS
Hey, I never claimed to know EVERYTHING! So I have been mis-informed by the nitrous racers I've been around. However, if it were mine, I'd mount the purge somewhere un-noticable. I do appreciate shooting it into the engine compartment might not be the best of ideas, though
Inside the car! you'd either get F'ed up or die
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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i thought my post was coherent..
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jewricer
Maybe I am talking to the wrong crowd. On highly tuned cars street or otherwise. Air pockets in the nitrous line can cause a lot of damage an engine.
no you're right, I read his post wrong and explained why it's needed, my bad dude. I can see where he came up with the statement though. I rarely used it at the strip since I spray in the burnout box and then she's fine in the few seconds I take to stage. if I was on a road course though (that would allow it too) that could mean being passed on a straight because it stumbled for a second.

honestly though, I don't feel there's enough fuel to wash out the cylinders unless the bottle was totally off (I figured thats what you're hinting at). if it was a 150shot or so direct port, yeah, that would be bad for sure, but these guys aren't looking at running something like that (and the ones that are already know better). the only time I ever had mine die on me was when someone closed my bottle without telling me. I lucked out and didn't damage anything but a few melted sensors. it could go sour quick though with a larger shot.
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