Nitrous Oxide N20

NOS w/ e85..??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:41 PM
  #1  
gone_in_10_sec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-05-10
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: A.B.E. PA & Jacksonville FL
NOS w/ e85..??

Wondering has anyone used NOS with e85, if so what's the effect - good or bad, if good with what jets & what tables to adjust? if bad??

On a side note:

Since testing 100 shot NOS & CO2 [chilling effect], I've noticed a few things..

NOS: When the ECM sees either a higher or lower burn based on sensor readings to maintain a "clean burn".. does it go to or read/compare the commanded tables or is it looking at other tables and adjusting based from those tables? which tables should i look/adjust at..

[it would be nice to have a setup like the F1 teams, they use up to 6+ different exhaust sensors to achieve a "clean burn" - it would be nice to have a sensor for each of the following exhaust gases - N2/CO2/H2O/CO/NOX/CXHY/SO2.. each one cost $$$$$ [a 2nd or 3rd O2 sensor is ideal to sense exhaust gas levels $$]

C02:"Chilled" intake charge temps & "chilled" liquid fuel = with using CO2 the intake air temps drops around 14*-21* but it changes the "live" output trims vs. commanded trims.. adjusting this suxs when the ambient air temps changes during the day, but when it's a steady 80* or 60* outside, the car drives like a beast.. as for the "chilled fuel" effect, the effect is big, but it's hard to dial in b/c of the "chilled" intake charged air - it's either/ or, give or take when chilling the fuel lines.. but I wonder if anyone knows what tables, i should look at to command the ambient air temp tables??

At some point, i know more fuel is needed b/c window is too small with NOS & chilled air in the mix, and it takes alot of tuning to get the right "mix" [fuel/spark/air] in the chamber, if not kaboom..

I realized that a 75 shot is alot easier to work with than compared with 100+ or higher shot, once we figure out how to command some of the trims/tables.. the sky is limit.. I can see it's possible to go up to a 150 shot, again once someone figures out how to do safely..
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:53 PM
  #2  
bratboy90's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: 06-12-11
Posts: 1,118
Likes: 12
From: Elk River, MN
Get on my level. 300Shot!!! JKJK. Very cool. I'd love to have a 75shot just to assure wins against the nicer cars LOL
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:58 AM
  #3  
09BlueBaltSS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-13-09
Posts: 2,951
Likes: 0
From: Davie, Fl
I'd assume u would have to stagger the jetting on e85. For example a 50hp nitrous and a 70hp fuel if doing a wet shot
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:01 PM
  #4  
gone_in_10_sec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-05-10
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: A.B.E. PA & Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
I'd assume u would have to stagger the jetting on e85. For example a 50hp nitrous and a 70hp fuel if doing a wet shot
I've used this chart to compare which jets to use..

NX Nitrous Jet settings
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:08 PM
  #5  
gone_in_10_sec's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-05-10
Posts: 805
Likes: 1
From: A.B.E. PA & Jacksonville FL
FYI: the bottom two boxes on the chart is what I used to base jet setting..

b/c it based on the FP pressure at the fuel tank.. since on the LNF the LPFP pressure are higher when using a different LPFP [Walbro or Aeromotive fuel pump]..
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:26 PM
  #6  
tbandit420's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 06-30-09
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: st.charles mo
subd
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:29 PM
  #7  
Tjolley's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 02-01-11
Posts: 2,799
Likes: 2
From: modesto
I ran a 150 wet shot with e.
Works well...i stretched the ARP head studs lol
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2012 | 12:09 PM
  #8  
utibalt's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 03-06-07
Posts: 219
Likes: 0
From: chicago, il
Need more info, thinking of adding a 35 shot for a quick and easy HP boost. found a kit for less than $300, then when i actually build my motor maybe i'll go for a higher shot of juice.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2012 | 12:26 PM
  #9  
carstedt's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 10-17-10
Posts: 4,583
Likes: 0
From: ft. lewis/ milwaukee, WI
Subd
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2012 | 01:11 AM
  #10  
Nfamous60's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: 12-04-11
Posts: 3,136
Likes: 1
From: El paso
hhhmmmm interesting
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:28 AM
  #11  
utibalt's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 03-06-07
Posts: 219
Likes: 0
From: chicago, il
Nothing yet?
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2013 | 01:12 AM
  #12  
redcobalt07's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: 12-06-09
Posts: 5,950
Likes: 0
From: Harrisburg, PA
Originally Posted by utibalt
Need more info, thinking of adding a 35 shot for a quick and easy HP boost. found a kit for less than $300, then when i actually build my motor maybe i'll go for a higher shot of juice.
You won't feel a 35 safe shot.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 05:42 PM
  #13  
utibalt's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 03-06-07
Posts: 219
Likes: 0
From: chicago, il
With nitrous i hear you shouldn't advance timing, and that is where i make my power with the e-85. by advancing timing. So i might lose power from the n2o rather than just add on to what i am at now? changed my mind to run a wet kit with a 55 shot. if it is worth while on power gain..? anybody out there who has done it? e85 with n2o?
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:09 PM
  #14  
Area47's Avatar
Rent me! per hour
 
Joined: 03-22-07
Posts: 24,161
Likes: 20
From: Still fixing others mistakes.
there is a jetting chart on ls1 tech for the e85 guys. or on yellow bullet. base pressure is the same on ls cars and the cobalts. the fuel jet will have to be richer. if you're hitting it with a 75 shot, jet the fuel for around 80-85
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 06:45 PM
  #15  
donkeyballs's Avatar
Platinum Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 03-08-10
Posts: 4,221
Likes: 1
From: buffalo
Originally Posted by redcobalt07
You won't feel a 35 safe shot.
From what I've seen the mazdaspeed 3 guys gain 30+whp 50+tq from a 35 shot. So add that to a full bolt-on hp tuned lnf and I'm sure you would notice it.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dennis69
Appearance
9
Oct 20, 2015 04:49 PM
TylerJHowell
2.0L LNF Performance Tech
34
Sep 21, 2015 06:47 PM
slacker
Mid East
3
Mar 5, 2007 09:16 PM
hondaeater
Parts
6
Jul 9, 2006 06:42 PM
knatsabooh
General Cobalt
3
Jun 8, 2006 09:08 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:29 PM.