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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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SC 2.4 on meth and spray!?

I was wondering if any of you guys have seen or heard of this setup. I'm currently with a 2.8 pulley and will be on meth next week but to get more power I figured I'd throw some spray on that ****. Would u guys say wet shot or dry shot?
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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wet shot.. ALWAYS wet shot
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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wet shot.. ALWAYS wet shot
Yeah I was thinkin of doin a 50 wet shot. If not 75. I just wasn't sure if anyone else done it. I doubt to many 2.4 have tho
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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before you do this, do you have money for a new engine just incase?
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see i was thinking about doing a 50 shot on top of my setup. . depending on how my new dyno comes out
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SS Flash
I was wondering if any of you guys have seen or heard of this setup. I'm currently with a 2.8 pulley and will be on meth next week but to get more power I figured I'd throw some spray on that ****. Would u guys say wet shot or dry shot?
Plenty of cars have. Works great. The "Red Sled" the fastest srt neon is using our systems (2 of them) and he is considering dropping the intercooler and only running meth and nitrous. Soon as the weather is decent he should clear 170 mph in the 1/4.

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wet shot.. ALWAYS wet shot
Why?

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Yeah I was thinkin of doin a 50 wet shot. If not 75. I just wasn't sure if anyone else done it. I doubt to many 2.4 have tho
I've been doing a lot of research on your application, so far I cant believe every ss doesnt have spray.

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before you do this, do you have money for a new engine just incase?
Working with me on his tuneups and not getting greedy he wont need one.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
Working with me on his tuneups and not getting greedy he wont need one.
it will be pushing the engine on stock internals. boost/a lot of timing/spray = extremely high cylinder pressures
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
Plenty of cars have. Works great. The "Red Sled" the fastest srt neon is using our systems (2 of them) and he is considering dropping the intercooler and only running meth and nitrous. Soon as the weather is decent he should clear 170 mph in the 1/4.



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I've been doing a lot of research on your application, so far I cant believe every ss doesnt have spray.



Working with me on his tuneups and not getting greedy he wont need one.

because for these cars on stock engine "it will be pushing the engine on stock internals. boost/a lot of timing/spray = extremely high cylinder pressures " 10.4:1 CR with 14 or so lbs of boost from the heaton + spray then trying to tune for a dry shot ... i would not recommend it. I understand you're from NX and you have more experience in nitrous then i do but i PERSONALLY wouldnt recommend a dry shot to a 2.4 L engine with the m62 swap. running a wet shot would be much easier and less worry some. Were as the SS/sc has stg 3 that has a nitrous algorithm so it has another tune setup in the ecm the 2.4 does not and theres only 1 person that has the potential to code it so it possibly could.

plus most of the cars on this site have ran wet shots .. with great success

this is something I've thought of doing on my car.. however I dont have the m62
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
before you do this, do you have money for a new engine just incase?
Well I was go na drop it in sometime soon but I wasn't gonna hit it hard till I built it which should be within the next few months, maybe October. God forbit it blows but trail and error I guess, it is my project tho. I will be doin ALOT of research before I screw myself over meanwhile

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see i was thinking about doing a 50 shot on top of my setup. . depending on how my new dyno comes out
But yeah I feel ya. That's wht I'm doin. I got an appt for a dyno tune this next wed and depending on wht that says I'll play off tht. Wht kinda system would u go for? NOS, NX,...!?

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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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because for these cars on stock engine "it will be pushing the engine on stock internals. boost/a lot of timing/spray = extremely high cylinder pressures " 10.4:1 CR with 14 or so lbs of boost from the heaton + spray then trying to tune for a dry shot ... i would not recommend it. I understand you're from NX and you have more experience in nitrous then i do but i PERSONALLY wouldnt recommend a dry shot to a 2.4 L engine with the m62 swap. running a wet shot would be much easier and less worry some. Were as the SS/sc has stg 3 that has a nitrous algorithm so it has another tune setup in the ecm the 2.4 does not and theres only 1 person that has the potential to code it so it possibly could.

plus most of the cars on this site have ran wet shots .. with great success

this is something I've thought of doing on my car.. however I dont have the m62
None of those have an effect on dry vs wet for your car. Dry vs wet is simply what is easier to tune for you.

Dry nitrous is just as easy to tune for those with tuning software or if your going to have it handled by a tuner.

I just didnt want the OP to assume that Dry wasent an option at all.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Dry is a pain on these cars because you can't switch the tune for nitrous. Car ends up running way rich when not on nitrous, and a wet shot keeps that from happeneing.

I believe you will have internal problems at that power level, but there's only one way to find out
Price you pay to push the limits.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Dry is a pain on these cars because you can't switch the tune for nitrous. Car ends up running way rich when not on nitrous, and a wet shot keeps that from happeneing.

I believe you will have internal problems at that power level, but there's only one way to find out
Price you pay to push the limits.
Their is usually a "trigger" to run dry with. IAT readings or something like that. Ill do some looking for you guys and see what I come up with for an easy and clean dry.

I usually recommend wet, I just wanted to make a point that dry isnt unsafe or unusable.
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Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
Their is usually a "trigger" to run dry with. IAT readings or something like that. Ill do some looking for you guys and see what I come up with for an easy and clean dry.

I usually recommend wet, I just wanted to make a point that dry isnt unsafe or unusable.
i dont think either of us were meaning it was unsafe or unusable .. just in our case not as good given what we have tuning wise
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
i dont think either of us were meaning it was unsafe or unusable .. just in our case not as good given what we have tuning wise
Yea I'm kool with either dry or wet shot. But my tuner suggest wet cuz of the tuner issues. Then agian if u have a stand alone system it could be different
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Dry is a pain on these cars because you can't switch the tune for nitrous. Car ends up running way rich when not on nitrous, and a wet shot keeps that from happeneing.
That is not true anymore. Not with the LSJ anyway...

Nitrous Switch OFF



Nitrous Switch ON, For Dry Nitrous Kit (not spraying Nitrous during log)

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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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you can run more timing advance than that. thats a lot of retard compared to your regular file
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
you can run more timing advance than that. thats a lot of retard compared to your regular file
I know. Trying to get it down to 2 degrees of retard.

Oh and here is the log file for those who want to see that both screen shots where taken from the same log.

http://www.ionforums.com/forums/atta...e-100802-1.hpl

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you can run more timing advance than that. thats a lot of retard compared to your regular file
Actually I plan on running a 150 shot!!! lol jk

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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That log is great, I would have a dry system on that before I went through the first tank of gas.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
That log is great, I would have a dry system on that before I went through the first tank of gas.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/trifecta-stage-3-faq-214518/
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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@ Nitrousexpress... So whts good with systems? Do you only have universal ones for the cobalts?
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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@ Nitrousexpress... So whts good with systems? Do you only have universal ones for the cobalts?
We certainly do. Our efi Dry system is great. Im considering putting it on my personal car.

http://nitrousexpress.com/product-details.php?id=1499
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cryospary is a nice safe mod and really good for FL!
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I wasn't supercharged but I ran 100shot on my car for over a year n loved it I'd say do a 50 wet shot in ur case
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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cryospary is a nice safe mod and really good for FL!
Yeah I was lookin it that or a 50 shot but I didn't know how much tht cryoshot would increase my power since not tht many ppl had it done
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cryoshot will not increase your power
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