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SSdan 10-30-2008 10:09 AM

Spinning when spraying?
 
What is the general consensus to this? Let off to stop spinning or stay on it and shift to the next gear?

JPizzle 10-30-2008 10:14 AM

Automatic or Manual?

If in a manual, you do not want to change gears while your tires are spinning, because it leads to premature wear on the clutch & supporting parts.

BTW, what trim is this for?

SSdan 10-30-2008 11:51 AM

SC.

I spin them just punching it in 2nd, tires start to catch about 6200-6500 and then I keep on going into 3rd

originaladrian 10-30-2008 11:54 AM

in general no.... when u spin the tires ur not going anywhere. traction FTMFW

im going to say let up a bit then punch it

SSdan 10-30-2008 11:57 AM

Here's the thing, nitrous is either on or off.

originaladrian 10-30-2008 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3044692)
Here's the thing, nitrous is either on or off.

WOT switch?

dedecv3 10-30-2008 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3044692)
Here's the thing, nitrous is either on or off.

:lol:

IonNinja 10-30-2008 12:52 PM

when I figure it out I'll let you know :lol:

I havent' been able to net anything better than a 2.4 60' at the track

but yes the whole on/off thing doesn't help at all...

SSdan 10-30-2008 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by originaladrian (Post 3044802)
WOT switch?

That and nitrous gets ugly when you are on/off very rapidly.

I'm just curious if letting the tires spin while spraying is a bad idea.

04redline0124 10-30-2008 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3044664)
SC.

I spin them just punching it in 2nd, tires start to catch about 6200-6500 and then I keep on going into 3rd

get godo tires then...I had more power then around 95 percent of ppl on this forum, and never had a problem with 2nd gear, you guys are doing something wrong. Get KDW's and call it a fucking day

SSdan 10-30-2008 03:27 PM

That's my next motive.

I have some nice kumhos for when it's warm, but this winter is kicking my ass.

Don't forget the ground gets mighty cold where I'm at in jersey, aint warm like Florida.

Tazmanian_Dvl 10-30-2008 03:31 PM

If you're spinning then you're not going anywhere. If you have an SS/SC I wouldn't turn the spray on until maybe half way through 2nd or maybe even wait until you shift into 3rd. If you flip the switch and all you do is spin then it's not helping you at all. Using spray in 1st is completely pointless and I"m thinking 2nd would be pretty pointless as well... Jusy my $.02

04redline0124 10-30-2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl (Post 3045788)
If you're spinning then you're not going anywhere. If you have an SS/SC I wouldn't turn the spray on until maybe half way through 2nd or maybe even wait until you shift into 3rd. If you flip the switch and all you do is spin then it's not helping you at all. Using spray in 1st is completely pointless and I"m thinking 2nd would be pretty pointless as well... Jusy my $.02

get some tires and it wont be so pointless trust me lol

Tazmanian_Dvl 10-30-2008 03:35 PM

1st gear is useless on the SS/SC's it's too short and if you punch it all you do is spin. I don't think anything but slicks would help us there...

D4u2s0t 10-30-2008 03:37 PM

if you're spinning completely through 2nd you probably shouldn't be using your nitrous in 2nd. problem solved :twothumbs:

Tazmanian_Dvl 10-30-2008 03:38 PM

That's what I said. Personally if I was a bottle baby I wouldn't be turning it on until I hit 3rd...

04redline0124 10-30-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl (Post 3045808)
1st gear is useless on the SS/SC's it's too short and if you punch it all you do is spin. I don't think anything but slicks would help us there...

im talking about 2nd gear lol....and wtf we have a first gear? :lol::lol:

All im saying is that when I had clutch bottle heater and my 90 shotin the carpl us alot of other goodies the car made prolly near like 330ish whp and I had no problem with 2nd gear, it hooked very nicely becuase I ad GOOD tires on the front lol

SSdan 10-30-2008 03:51 PM

In the summer.

Before the nitrous came out the car it wouldn't spin at all in 2nd.

I'm worried about the winter.

SSdan 10-30-2008 10:26 PM

bump anyone else

slowswap 10-30-2008 10:31 PM

Spinning and spraying won't hurt anything. Bouncing off of rev limiter well spraying is a huge no no.

1^up 11-03-2008 04:34 PM

dan in the winter you can't spray if your on all season tires or junky tires. where we live you will not get traction. if you don't want to spin you will have to do a 60mph roll. if the bottle temp is past 900psi in 2nd gear you are going to spin. if you don't use a bottle warmer and run 600-700psi and have the heat on in the car lol you prob will not spin at 40mph in 2nd gear

SSdan 11-03-2008 04:51 PM

I was hoping for input from you since you know the weather. I'm on summer only tires and they spin in the cold right now slightly until 60 or so. I was wondering if it'll do any damage to the car.

I got a bottle warmer now too so you can bet I'll be pushing it at 950psi all day long.

1^up 11-03-2008 04:54 PM

how is it holding up (the engine and all)? what fuel jet are you running? did you up it so it is safer or are you running a custom tune?

if the bottle temp is low you will not be running the full shot but you will not spin. not spinning is better than spinning. my recommendation for you if you can warm up the tires and once it is warm again i believe the best tires we can get are kdw2's.

you should come up and let me fill up your bottle and run me for fun again. i got my bottle warmer hooked up now too.

also i ran 13.4 @ 107 with these all season tires i am running that are junky. that was w/o the bottle warmer and i had the pressure gauge on and i was at 700psi bottle temp or so. plan on going back once more this season, would you want to come to watch or video tape or run your car for fun?

SSdan 11-03-2008 05:01 PM

I tuned it now and I got a permit as well. The jets are staying the same, I'm just gonna play with the bottle pressure to see what I like better.

1^up 11-03-2008 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3058929)
I tuned it now and I got a permit as well. The jets are staying the same, I'm just gonna play with the bottle pressure to see what I like better.

i edited my last post if you can read it and add if you would want to come to the track with me before this season is over. also who tuned your car? if you tuned it yourself would you mind tuning me and limiting my boost and also making the exhaust engine light turn off?

IonNinja 11-03-2008 06:24 PM

I'd really like to see someone throw in a progressive controller to help out with the traction issues

I wouldn't lower bottle pressure because thats going to give you an all around weaker shot...even when you do have traction. Once you feel the difference between low bottle pressure and not you wont want to go back anyway lol

slowswap 11-03-2008 06:31 PM

Progressive controller? Just get slicks.

:pimp:

SSdan 11-03-2008 07:45 PM

So no one really answered my question, does spraying and causing the car to spin HURT the engine?

I know hitting rev limiter = no no, but that most likely won't happen.

I'm not looking to blow another motor.


Originally Posted by 1^up (Post 3058934)
i edited my last post if you can read it and add if you would want to come to the track with me before this season is over. also who tuned your car? if you tuned it yourself would you mind tuning me and limiting my boost and also making the exhaust engine light turn off?

Tune Time tuned it. The car feels like I'm spraying the entire time now.

I'll be picking up HPT in the next few months so from then on i'll be tuning myself

slowswap 11-03-2008 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3059424)
So no one really answered my question, does spraying and causing the car to spin HURT the engine?

I know hitting rev limiter = no no, but that most likely won't happen.

I'm not looking to blow another motor.

Spinning when spraying will not hurt anything as long as you don't hit the rev limiter. I believe I did answer your question in an earlier post.

SSdan 11-03-2008 09:28 PM

Must have missed it.

Thanks, it's nice when someone that doesn't even have a cobalt is helpful like you. It's a change from the usual dicks on this site.

slowswap 11-03-2008 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3059771)
Must have missed it.

Thanks, it's nice when someone that doesn't even have a cobalt is helpful like you. It's a change from the usual dicks on this site.

I help out the Cobalt owns and call out the dicks. You should see half of my post. LMAO

1^up 11-03-2008 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by SSdan (Post 3059424)
So no one really answered my question, does spraying and causing the car to spin HURT the engine?

I know hitting rev limiter = no no, but that most likely won't happen.

I'm not looking to blow another motor.



Tune Time tuned it. The car feels like I'm spraying the entire time now.

I'll be picking up HPT in the next few months so from then on i'll be tuning myself

once you get hpt you want to take a look at my car? try to eliminate some engine codes and possible change some things up? also run you vs me. a tuned car with mod's vs the cheap balt still on gm stg2 file :)

same bottle temp same thing. i believe you truly on a 50shot and i am still on a 45. however we will heat our bottles up the same way and see what happens. if i get you all hell is going to break loose. however if you are quicker than i must tune my bitch. are you on 60lb injectors now?

EDIT: spinning will not hurt anything just don't go pulling a joe on us and spray at 1,150 psi and spin your tires then get grip finally towards redline and keep on spraying while the rpm's are dropping. as long as you don't do that you should be fine. i spin the tires when the bottle temp is up in 2nd a couple times vs a stg2 srt-4 i raced from a 40mph roll and spun them out to 3rd gear then shifted and then got grip. just make sure once you get grip again or between shifts you let off the spray.

also if your on 60lb injectors are your mod's still the same other than that? if so how much whp are you putting down? you can pm if you want to talk about this


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