figured i would take a poll for this. personally i think vick is a good athlete but he crossed my line when destroying dogs... so basically heres the poll in hand...

 

He did his time unlike Stalworth.

I love dogs a **** ton, but if you or I run over someone, drunk and high, there is no way we would be able to walk after less than a month of prison.

 

i went to warwick with Vick. And i gaurantee even tho he took the fall mike wasnt the whole master mind behind what happened. Unfortunately it took place at his property so he went down as well. And as far as his qaurterback skills id take him over mcnaab anyday

now if the eagles still had terrell yall would have be set!!

 

Wildcat with Vick, McNabb, and Westbrook in the backfield with Jackson in the slot and Curtis wide.

Sounds disgusting.

 

I'm a crazy big dog lover and I can't wait for him to get back to playing. I don't care what he does off the field, he could kill hookers and do cocaine all day for all I care. He's an amazing football player and that's all I need to know about him. He did his time and that was the consequence any further punishment is him just being a martyr.

 

Stalworth was suspended for a whole season for something he did under the influence and accidentally.

Vick gets a 5 game suspension and the right to play preseason for something that was planed out and was premeditated.


Doesn't sound too fair to me.

 

football is a business.... who cares what u do off the field

on the field he is a monster and brings in money so wtf

YAY! forsure

 

accidentally? but if your in nfl they have ppl that will drive u around for no cost at all.. it could have easilyy been avoided

 

there was no proof vick had anything to do with the planning it happened on his property tho and since VA is a commonwealth they punished him.

 

Think of this as being yourself. You work for some company and do something you love to do, then get arrested and thrown in prison. Do you think that job will still be there for you when you get out? I'd be willing to bet not, so why should he be any different?

Yea he said he is sorry and what he did was wrong. ok, apology accepted. But with this being plastered all over the media, to me it does nothing but condone illegal behavior and give children hope that they can still make it big if they follow the path of criminal behavior.

I work in Polk County and we had Travis Henry in jail on Child Support. Yes, the Travis Henry who played for Buffalo and then Denver before being released due to drug habits. All he did was smoke marijuana and lost his career. 'Simple' misdemeanor and Henry looses everything. Vick commits a felony and get's a second chance.

 

travis henry could return to football if he cleaned up. look at ricky williams a few years ago...

vick did his time. he's showing remorse. give him a break.

just because he went to jail for something doesnt mean he should never be allowed to play football again...if you went to jail and lost your job, for whatever reason, does that mean you shouldnt be allowed to have a job again? no. the only reason this is even on the news so much, is because hes famous. guess what. famous people **** up just like average people. just because hes famous doesnt mean he doesnt deserve a second chance.

 

exactly and right now hes broke as **** too! He even had to sell some of his properties around here as well

 

He hasn't played a game since 07.



And what if it was YOUR dad that got mowed down by some ******* who shoulda got a cab?

Seriously.

Seriously, that is one of the most fail statements I have ever seen.



Vick has cleaned up his act and isn't a complete tool bag like Pacman or Henry.

You got to change your ways to EARN second chance.

 

i cant wait to see him play...

 

I hear where you're coming from. I am in no way a perfect person either. I know I have done stuff that could have landed me in jail I was just fortunate enough to not get caught. I think everybody has done stupid things like that.

I don't know how Henry is outside in his personal life. I talked to him a few times when he was behind bars for Child Support. He says that he has cleaned himself up and has tried to get back in but he has no way of getting back into the NFL. Now I don't know if what he was saying is truthful or not, just telling you what he told me.

I also am not saying that if you go to jail or prison you can't ever work again. You would have to find work to live. That's a given. I just don't think he should be allowed to play in the NFL after that. There are young kids in College busting their ass to make a name for themselves and now one of them might be denied because Vick just got out of prison. I just don't agree with it.

And if I did something to land myself behind bars I would not expect to have the job I have now. I would expect to be working somewhere for minimum wage.

 

i will bet you that after this season, when he gets some money, he will build an animal shelter and try to start working with animal rights groups to make up for what he did. i guarentee he will try to make right what hes done. but at the very least he deserves a chance to play again

 

If work for some company and make that company boat loads of loads of money and bring in tons of new customers and sell a plethora of replica work shirts with your name on the back then you bet your ass you'll job will be there when you get back. Probably with some intern that has been keeping your seat warm the whole time you were gone.

 

And maybe he has. I don't know. And like I said in the other post. Henry might still be a tool bag. He told me personally that he has cleaned up and has tried to get back in but isn't allowed. I don't know how truthful that is, and that's why I brought up the argument I have. Because if it is true it is unfair.

 

If Henry tried to get back into the NFL we would all know.

We hear nothing, so we know nothing.

 

no one in college will suffer because of vick. McNabb wont even suffer because of vick. Unless of course he just sucks ass this season.

depending on what you do know, there is no reason you shouldnt be able to get that same job, there, or somewhere else after being in prison. unless its some kind of federal job.

and it travis henry wanted to play again, im sure we'd all know. honestly, he either doesnt want to play or no one wants him on their team.

 

Which is a good point. BTW, how much money did he bring in? Honestly, I'm curious.

And we could go back and fourth all day long with this too. Both sides have points. ANd I don't want to fight. I've said how I feel.

Well, I don't think McNabb is the best of QB's anyway.

Yup. That's what I think.

 

I can rattle off quite a few starters he is better than though.



We will save that convo for a different thread or something though.

 

Haha, good idea.

 

He needs to get HIS ass beat to death!

 

yeah thanks for the useful post



Which one Vick or the guy who took someone's life because he got behind the wheel of his car drunk and stoned out of his mind like a tool.