M88ArRamadi

Well I bought a set of cams off a member and they ended up being for a 2.2 (L61). Since I have an LSJ, I have no need for these. I tried to reason with JBP but they want to charge me a core charge of $200 plus i have to give them my stock cams in return!! Doesn't seem fair to me since the member who bought them off JBP ordered LSJ cams and already gave him a set of stock LSJ cams. All I wanted was a 1-for-1 exchange. Oh well....sucks to be me.

Asking $500 Shipped

My Info:

Bill Spinale
Fort Irwin, Ca 92310
william.spinale@us.army.mil
(719) 685-6213 <<------Cell


I will HAPPILY trade for a set of LSJ S2TF cams.
or
Drive Shaft Shop Stage 2 Axles for an 06 SS/SC
or
Nitrous Kit

S2TF Cams are the bottom set....gears not included

XM15

Thats weird; I couldn't find 2.2 cams on JBP's site, only 2.0 and 2.4.

Do you know what the advertised gains for these cams are?

M88ArRamadi

I don't remember..........I have all the e-mails from JBP about trading these cams and he recoginized (sp) them and said they were the S2/TF L61 cams....I basically just got the run-around until JBP finally said the $200/stock cam return deal.

Here's one of the e-mails:

From: Information Repsonse [info@jbodyperformance.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:08 PM
To: william.spinale@us.army.mil
Subject: Re: TriFlow Stage 2 Cams for an 06 Cobalt LSJ

Thats the Triflow grind. Can you contact Colt Cams concerning your issue
directly.

Basically, speak with Geoff, tell him the ordeal. Tell him that you
supposedly received L61 (2.2L ECOTEC) cams. He'll indicate what to do.

Thanks,
JBP


----- Original Message -----
From: <william.spinale@us.army.mil>
To: "Info Response" <info@jbodyperformance.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: TriFlow Stage 2 Cams for an 06 Cobalt LSJ


> The longer cam looks like it had JBODY.... on it....the only engraving is
TFII on both
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Info Response <info@jbodyperformance.com>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:31
> Subject: Re: TriFlow Stage 2 Cams for an 06 Cobalt LSJ
> To: William Spinale <william.spinale@us.army.mil>
>
> > Thats odd, it seems as though you received cams for the 2.2L L61.
> > Can you verify that the cams have the "colt cams" engraving on the
> > side where the cam gears bolt to?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JBP
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: William Spinale
> > To: info@jbodyperformance.com
> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:58 PM
> > Subject: TriFlow Stage 2 Cams for an 06 Cobalt LSJ
> >
> >
> > I recently bought a set of your Stage 2 Triflow cams. I finally
> > have all the parts to re-assemble my engine. As I was switching
> > cams I noticed they (JBP) are not the same length. Also I don't
> > know which one is Intake or Exhaust. In the pictures I provided,
> > JBP ones are the bottom 2. Also the cam gear angle is different.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did I somehow accidentally get a different cam for a different car?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >

spaz

Jbp sounds like a crap place to deal with. I don't see why they don't just take them back and give you the proper ones. What kind of nos kit? Would you be interested in the hks 272 grind cams(they need shims) and ported head and ferrea valvetrain?
Did you get the darton sleaves done?

M88ArRamadi

Spaz,

How the car running??? Mine seems fine....need a better tune....way toooooo rich. JBP pisses me off. I ended up just putting a new stock sleeve in it. I had the exhaust polished. I also had to clearance the head a little for the ferrea valvetrain.

I'm not sure what shims are....

As far as the Nitrous kit....I'm looking for a wet kit, adjustable but 100 shot should be sufficient.

M88ArRamadi

Bump

M88ArRamadi

is anyone interested? If not I'll remove this thread

Ec0t3cHp0w3r

these cams still up man? do i need valve springs aswell when i put these in my 2.2?? thanx l8r

XM15

I would be if there was tuning.

Cobalt4Life

yea JBP does have a section for the cams.. let me find the link on here for it.. it isnt findable on there site but this link takes you there for some odd reason..
http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0288

there ya go there sir

EDIT:


Stage 2 2.2L ECOTEC

Duration @ .050*, Valve Lift
INTAKE 228*, 446
EXHAUST 232*, 448

M88ArRamadi

Yes they are still FS. You don't need valve springs.

Those arn't tri-flow. Those are the basic stage 2 cams........I have their L61 stage 2 triflow cams. Thanks though

cobalt_driver

u dont need them, but i would recommend it. couldn't hurt. longer duration lift, and more wear, i would go with new valves if i were to swap cams.

Ec0t3cHp0w3r

wats the hp diff. with the triflows from the basic cams? and wont i need the gears 2?? i am still interested in buyin them when i get my taxes back!!! which is very very very soon

M88ArRamadi

HP difference will depend on your set-up. With the triflo design you will see HP increase throughout the powerband. So with your I/E setup you should feel a noticable difference. You don't need gears but they are a plus.

rico

are these the ones i got from u before?

M88ArRamadi

Yes Sir

rico

what were the spects of the again? mystupid friend that got them for his car lost the paper and dont want to install them anymore and wants to sell them lol

M88ArRamadi

Dude...honestly I don't remember. The specs were written on the paper/manual I sent. Even worse than that, I JUST threw away all my docs and receipts for the stuff I had, less than a week ago!