i had a white neon before i upgraded to the badass cobalt i have now....and i bought 17 inh sudoku rims, pu 2000 miles on them ...and then realized i wanted a cobalt..so now i have these almost new rims that fit 5 or 4 lug.....they just dont fit cobalts because of their distinct lug nut pattern..but let me know if anyone wants em and we can bargain...