LewiSS

Complete Alpine turbo kit including exhaust manifolds, Garrett turbo, braded steel lines, SMT-6 computer, 2-BAR MAP, modified GMPP intake system set up for Ram Air, NGK racing plugs that cost $127/set. Also a new, never installed combination digital boost and AFR gauge, plus a factory SS/SC pillar cover to mount it in.

Makes 8-9 pounds of boost with an intake temp of 135 after 2 hours of dyno running (that's better than their old 2.2 intercooled kit). Absolutely lowest spool-up lag you will find due to highly efficient turbo and very short intake piping. Instantaneous torque. Used 5 days. Needs tuning completed - either the SMT-6 with auxiliary injector, or with HPTune using SS/SC injectors. Current tune is close, but needs refining. It's not showing any knock sensor hits, so the timing is probably right. The only consistent CEL is for a low baro sensor input, which can be cured by moving the clamp point in the SMT-6 for the MAF. On my engine it also has misfires under boost. Not sure it it would on a 2.2, which is a bit lower compression. Further tuning should take that out.

I have run out of time - I need the car stock and stable in case I have to drive back to Oklahoma at a moment's notice (terminally ill father). If you want to take the time to finish the tune, this would be an excellent system. Alpine might support finishing the tune since this is their prototype/development system. Or possibly someone good can tune it with HPTune better than Alpine with the SMT-6. If I had the time that's the approach I would take at this point.

If you have the time to get this right, my loss will be your gain. Alpine sells this kit for $2850.00 without the GMPP-based ram-air compatible intake. I'm asking $2,000 + shipping OBO - trades considered. I need a new GMPP intake since the kit will include my modified one, so I'd give a generous trade for that if you have one.

After having this system on an automatic, I know it will work although I'd highly recommend at least a tranny cooler (it really hits hard on the shifts). If the person who buys this has an automatic, I will include a new, never installed B&M Shift+ with instructions. The kit will work just as well on a manual.

The system is coming off Friday night, April 27.

This is NOT a bolt-on, drive it away system. While mechanically it's a relatively easy bolt-on, further tuning MUST be done before this can be driven consistently on the street. Do NOT buy this if you are not willing to take the time to finish the tune. Celicacobalt may have an HPTune soon for a turbo 2.4. Plus the SMT-6 has been proven before on the 2.2.

ted5986

why are you selling? did you already explain?

LewiSS

From the initial post: "I have run out of time - I need the car stock and stable in case I have to drive back to Oklahoma at a moment's notice (terminally ill father). "

LScoupeTUNER

nice post ...thanx for the info in cse i may turbo... up:

CTCOBALTSSS

Very nice write up LewiSS. Be prepared to be bombarded with questions. Good luck with everything. Happy tuning

slowbalt19

my car had random misfire under WOT but regapping the pluges seemed to help

CobaltKids

The misfiring... can that be fixed with forged pistons? Or is it tuning thatis the issue?

LewiSS

Don't know...

Jackalope

Damn Lewis I'm so sorry to hear about your father, Way to go guys! His DAD > then any turbo kit or mod ever made.

Best of luck man I hope your Dad is ok and not in any pain at least. I'm so sorry to hear this news.

monkeiboy

I like that they managed to fit it in behind the engine.
Did you get any dyno runs in on it?

CTCOBALTSSS

Sorry to hear about your paps LewiSS. My prayers go out to you and your family.

LewiSS

Thanks so much 'lope and the rest. We appreciate the thoughts and kindness.

He had part of a lung removed from cancer 15 years ago, so I guess he got another 15 free years. He's in chemo, but they offer no hope of a cure. 1-2 months, 6-12 months - different ideas from different specialists. He's very weak, but still getting around on his own and other than aches/pains from being 80, probably not suffering that much (hard to tell - he says he's fine!). Still driving his Grand Marquis to town every day for coffee.

Yes, it actually fits even better than it looks, because the heat blanket on the firewall is kinda "poofy" so it looks closer than it really is. This is very much OEM-quality hardware.

Their dyno showed 300 lb/ft torque at one point, but without a baseline run prior to the install (we forgot to do it) the number is nothing but a number...

The impromptu 0-60, recorded by my Dashhawk of 7.1 says more. In a manual that should be in the 6's - equal at least to a stock SS/SC.

07cobaltowner

very interested. looking into funds, and i will be in touch with you.
i have been working on a turbo kit and this is right in the price i want to spend.
im not calling dibbs or anything so don't hold it for me but once i figure out if i can afford it i will let you know!

LewiSS

No problem. Keep me informed. If this looks like it might be a go, we can talk by phone and I can fill you in on any details.

Thanks for looking.

07cobaltowner

alright i got some questions for you, i went back and checked out your original post when you were still in testing.
you mention that you use a different turbo thatn the 2.2, what turbo do you use? will it work well with the 2.2?
also i know that you are using a ram air setup with a hood scoop, and do not have an intercooler. i am not looking to put a scoop on, does alpine offer an intercooler, any idea what it would cost me? also the tuning that is already done is for the 2.4, how do you go about tuning this, will this work on my 2.2 since there is no tuning available?
basically what all am i going to have to do to what you have to make it work on my car. i am dedicated and have a certain budget i would like to stick to. i appreciate any information you can give me.

LewiSS

The 2.4 kit uses a garrett turbo. The 2.2 kit used a different brand (can't remember which one - the Alpine page might tell you).

You wouldn't have to use the intake as ram air. Take off the gasket and it will work fine without a scoop. As for intercoolering, the ram air wasn't a replacement for an intercooler. You need an intercooler if intake temps get too high. This is a factor of total boost, and the efficiency of the particular turbo being used. In the case of the Garrett, it's so efficient the intake temps are as low as the old kit was with an intercooler, indicating the Garrett is a superior turbo to the one they used originally. I assume they're changing the 2.2 kit over to Garrett also. But if you can't live without an intercooler, I believe it's $700 from Alpine.

tuning the SMT-6 requires a notebook computer, the tuning software, and a cable. Alpine can probably supply the software and the cable. They also already have a tune for the 2.2, and could probably supply it on a disk. That would be a great starting point.

I can't guarantee this kit will tune out on a 2.2, but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. The turbo was changed not so much because of the 2.4 as for supply issues (plus it's better). But be prepared to be without a car for a lot longer than you expect (maybe a month, depending on how long it takes you to get it tuned). also, expect to pay for some dyno time. finally, someone who is a good tuner, especially with the SMT-6 would be a must. and no, one tune probably won't get it. It will take some fiddling to get it right. That's just the nature of dealing with modern ECUs, especially Chevy's (I could tune this in a week myself on an older Ford EECIV or Chrysler speed density system).

IMPORTANT:

I will offer telephone support on the kit parts install only (exhaust manifold, turbo, oiling, intake and charge tube plumbing). I won't provide any support on the electronics or tuning, including wiring diagrams or instructions - the buyer would be responsible for working that out with Perfect Power (who makes the SMT-6) or Alpine. I will, however, supply the SMT-6, the 2-bar MAP it uses, and all of its cables, plus a new, never used combination digital boost gage and AFR, and a factory SS/SC pillar cover to mount it in (if your car has the light gray interior, it matches as factory, and it will work in a 2-door or 4-door).

07cobaltowner

my problem is that the only people i know who could tune this... well i wouldn't let them touch my car. i have an idea of another place i can go. i am going to call aroung and talk to some people and let you know what i find out. since you have worked with alpine on your install do you have any numbers of people there i could talk to to get some information? or could you talk to them for me?
either way i need to know that i can get it tuned before i move on further.

also as far as my car being an 07 do you know if there is any other kind of complications due to engine modifications since the previous years?

Bryank930

Tuning...for a 2.2....good luck...

07cobaltowner

yeah, but there is tuning for the smt-6 so that is how i can tune it overides the ecu.
just hoping it all comes together

so lewiSS do you have the Tuner software and cable for the SMT-6?
and is that what you were using to tune it?

LewiSS

for Alpine, go to theit website at:

http://www.alpine-developments.us/

I do not have the software and cable - Alpine was tuning it with their software and cable.

The SMT-6 is built by Perfect Power. Here's the site:

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp

Wiring diagrams and software are available for download for free. The cable can be purchased from Perfect Power at this site:

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/price_list.asp

P/N is SMT6-COMS, price is $9.42 USD.

LewiSS

* SOLD *

Thanks, everyone, for looking.

07cobaltowner

damn! oh well.

Speed Mafia

i didnt think this would last long as any of alpines stuff sells fast and used even faster! glad you got it all installed and working great! with HPT there would be no Cells and great performance improvements in power!

LewiSS

Actually, I gave it to my son-in-law to put on his Neon. No one on the board appeared to be the least bit interested, either here or our local board. Lots of talk, but few people really want to spend the money and take on the challenge.

TCarter

Sad news, I was actualy coming on here to tell you i wanted it.