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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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I only have had one race(well two, but same car) with a Srt-6, in my old GTP, I tore it up from a dead stop, from a roll, I was beating it until I let off about 100, and the crazy fool stayed in it, and I know was doing around 150mph, and though it wasn't much traffic, it wasn't open enough to be doing 150, or even 100 for that matter, lol
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
I only have had one race(well two, but same car) with a Srt-6, in my old GTP, I tore it up from a dead stop, from a roll, I was beating it until I let off about 100, and the crazy fool stayed in it, and I know was doing around 150mph, and though it wasn't much traffic, it wasn't open enough to be doing 150, or even 100 for that matter, lol
I'd like to hear the mods on your GTP...

That, or it wasn't an SRT6, or he just wasn't racing. My stock SS/SC spanked pullied/exhausted GTPs by cars, and I got my ass hand delivered to me by an SRT6.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
I'd like to hear the mods on your GTP...

That, or it wasn't an SRT6, or he just wasn't racing. My stock SS/SC spanked pullied/exhausted GTPs by cars, and I got my ass hand delivered to me by an SRT6.
sorry to ***** this thread..anybody know what a 98gtp with ported blower 3.4pulley, I/H/E ubend, tune, springs, rockers, stock cam will run 1/4 wise?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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sorry to ***** this thread..anybody know what a 98gtp with ported blower 3.4pulley, I/H/E ubend, tune, springs, rockers, stock cam will run 1/4 wise?
14.1 on streets. Heat is the issue with those cars more so than with ours.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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didn't know they made it in that trim
you live somewhere secluded?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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you live somewhere secluded?
lol welcome to the party, Cole...
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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14.1 on streets. Heat is the issue with those cars more so than with ours.
yeah...I thought so...gotta friend who has that...swears it'll pull bus lengths on me...I
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltR
yeah...I thought so...gotta friend who has that...swears it'll pull bus lengths on me...I
There's a buddy of mine around here with 2.76 pulley, I/H/E no cats, ported blower, manifold, 1.8 rockers double stack S2 intercooler, Northstar TB, mounts, and some other stuff I cant think of...with my setup he pulls about 2 cars from a stop, and about a car from a roll. I'm still tweaking my tune, and as soon as I get the car back out the shop we're gonna run again...
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
lol welcome to the party, Cole...
i thought every compact car enthusiast knew about the srt series... i guess not all are as much into this kinda thing
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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the srt-6 is the least known of the srt series by far.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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i thought every compact car enthusiast knew about the srt series... i guess not all are as much into this kinda thing
right....kinda like the Audi S60 R AWD... 300HP turbo, AWD, and auto with a nice look to it. How many people ever saw/heard of one of those??

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the srt-6 is the least known of the srt series by far.
and in it's own way, that makes it the best...

S/C Cobra guys would **** themselves to be outrun by a Crossfire...

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
right....kinda like the Audi S60 R AWD... 300HP turbo, AWD, and auto with a nice look to it. How many people ever saw/heard of one of those??



and in it's own way, that makes it the best...

S/C Cobra guys would **** themselves to be outrun by a Crossfire...
well....good luck doing that. I haven't seen a stock 03-04 cobra in years. I do like the srt-6 tho because the crossfire is known as a girly car and the srt is quick.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
I'd like to hear the mods on your GTP...

That, or it wasn't an SRT6, or he just wasn't racing. My stock SS/SC spanked pullied/exhausted GTPs by cars, and I got my ass hand delivered to me by an SRT6.

Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
14.1 on streets. Heat is the issue with those cars more so than with ours.
several guys in our local GTP club went 13.8s-13.9s with a 3.4", a 3" downpipe, a CAI, a tune with a Powertuner(and your basic mods, 180 t-stat, colder plugs, etc.).........with no headers or valve train work

more than one car did in fact... one guy almost broke the 13s on the stock pulley and did do it with the back seat taken out, lol(just to prove a point that he could, name was Randle)

As far as hearing more about my car, I had all of that, plus solid motor mounts, headers and 1.9rrs with LS6 Valve springs... never ran it at the 1/4 at Steele but I did run a guy named Shawn who had went 13.8s, and beat him by over 2 cars(on the street)...

I would guess I had a 13.3-13.5 car, mine was also a 2004 with the L32 with the Eaton Gen V m90 as opposed to a '97-'03 with the L67 and a Eaton Gen III m90...........no there wasn't a Gen IV M90, they skipped a gen for some strange reason... everyone says those cars are slower, and stock for stock, the L32s are, because of torque management, which is up to 85% on a WOT launch, once mods come into play and the stock tune goes out the window, mod for mod they are FASTER than a L67... they also have to have more mods to run a smaller pulley, a 3.5" pulley on a Gen V is equivalent to a 3.4" on a Gen III, I ran a 3.5" pulley for most of the cars life, which took it from the stock 8 psi to around 11-12psi, with the headers, it actually dropped to around 10psi on the 3.5" because of the added back pressure, but then with the 3.4" got in the 12-13psi range, with spikes of 14psi...

also, another thing to remember, is the L32s and L67s are 0-85 cars, they will beat A LOT of cars to those speeds and then get pulled on, well, on the stock cam at least


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prior to the headers, it managed a 8.702 through the 1/8th on some VERY slick ass tires, those tires were no where near road legal either due to their tire wear, it was just the last week the track was open and I wanted to get a few runs in before it closed, had a guy offer to let me use his DRs instead, but I had rather run slower than it would normally than faster than it should... I put the headers on and dropped to the 3.4" pulley that winter, car was a lot stronger, ended up selling it that summer before I ever ran it at the track, sold it modded as is, to a car salesman, lol

and the race against the Srt-6 was one of the last races in that car, I had it that spring before selling, had a local college parking decal in the window and an Indian guy(Middle Eastern) driving, with another Indian guy in the passenger seat


as far as a stock s/c Cobalt beating pulley'd/exhaust GTPs, I'm sure some of them you can, as the difference between a GTP without a proper tune and one without a proper tune, is a WORLDS of difference, we are actually talking up to a second through the 1/4(high 13s compared to high 14s)... and like some guys in S/C Cobalts run 15s, well, some guys in modded GTPs run shitty times... but when you run into a properly tuned and driven, pullied/bolt-on GTP, get back to me on that schooling you get by a 4-door in your stock S/c... for example, I was pulling 1.9 60's and running high 8s/low 9s through the 1/8th back when I had a CAI, 3.5", downpipe, and a canned(shitty) tune.....on street tires


oh yeah, for future reference, when I get callled out on something, I am probably going to supply you with more information than you want to hear, its my way of backing up my claims... I can also bring in references, if need be, lol
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama

as far as a stock s/c Cobalt beating pulley'd/exhaust GTPs, I'm sure some of them you can, as the difference between a GTP without a proper tune and one without a proper tune, is a WORLDS of difference, we are actually talking up to a second through the 1/4(high 13s compared to high 14s)... and like some guys in S/C Cobalts run 15s, well, some guys in modded GTPs run shitty times... but when you run into a properly tuned and driven, pullied/bolt-on GTP, get back to me on that schooling you get by a 4-door in your stock S/c... for example, I was pulling 1.9 60's and running high 8s/low 9s through the 1/8th back when I had a CAI, 3.5", downpipe, and a canned(shitty) tune.....on street tires


oh yeah, for future reference, when I get callled out on something, I am probably going to supply you with more information than you want to hear, its my way of backing up my claims... I can also bring in references, if need be, lol
I'm talking about the pack of ******** that rolled up to our local Cobalt meet and started calling us out, one guy was tuned with catless DP and Ubend delete and I was 2.9 Custom tuned. He wanted to bet me money he would destroy me, and I said let's just run before you get too cocky...I forget how many buses I put on him. Then he started with that "wait til I get my this and that, I'll run you again." I told him to come on. Like I said, there is one guy here that tunes his regularly, he has the DHP program and 2.76, blah blah all those mods I said in my other post.

Point being, I raced my buddy in his Regal GS, which is lighter if I'm correct, with rockers, other guys headers, intake, 3.25, mounts, and custom tune when I was stock (well, I just put my K&N intake on) and would beat him by a car or more from a dig, and from a roll.

As for those things being 0-85 mobiles, I def. agree with that. Other than the guy with the 2.76 all the others seem to just fall on their face. But yeah, soon as my car is out of the shop, I've got the tune file ready for the meth and it'll be on like Donkey Kong.

Think I'm gonna go ahead and fill my motor mounts and throw some spring blocks in the rear for a little help on the launch....he did it, why can't I? Fair's fair, right.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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yup. my mom had an srt-6 crossfire. Aside from it being so incredibly SMALL, it was a nice car. She got a great deal on hers though. Think it was a little more than my ss/sc.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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Holy damn...
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
I'm talking about the pack of ******** that rolled up to our local Cobalt meet and started calling us out, one guy was tuned with catless DP and Ubend delete and I was 2.9 Custom tuned. He wanted to bet me money he would destroy me, and I said let's just run before you get too cocky...I forget how many buses I put on him. Then he started with that "wait til I get my this and that, I'll run you again." I told him to come on. Like I said, there is one guy here that tunes his regularly, he has the DHP program and 2.76, blah blah all those mods I said in my other post.

Point being, I raced my buddy in his Regal GS, which is lighter if I'm correct, with rockers, other guys headers, intake, 3.25, mounts, and custom tune when I was stock (well, I just put my K&N intake on) and would beat him by a car or more from a dig, and from a roll.

As for those things being 0-85 mobiles, I def. agree with that. Other than the guy with the 2.76 all the others seem to just fall on their face. But yeah, soon as my car is out of the shop, I've got the tune file ready for the meth and it'll be on like Donkey Kong.

Think I'm gonna go ahead and fill my motor mounts and throw some spring blocks in the rear for a little help on the launch....he did it, why can't I? Fair's fair, right.

ummm... if a GTP is running a "2.76" pulley, to have a lot mods to run that, not your typical bolt-ons, it would be a low 12 second car, that is EXTREMELY small for a M90... an aftermarket camshaft, intercooler, headers, and new injectors are a MUST to run anything lower than a 3.0

so once again, race a properly setup 2.7" pulley GTP and get back to me, that is EASILY a 11.9-12.1 car... and to run a 2.9" pulley, once again a big NO on the stock cam, injectors, no intercooler, etc...that is where the problem lies, the modded grand prixs in your area are owned by complete dumb asses....

and once you take away the stock cam, the top end being flat isn't exactly true, they still do fall flat, but at that point its about 140, which anyone who drag races doesn't care anyway

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 08inBama
ummm... if a GTP is running a "2.76" pulley, to have a lot mods to run that, not your typical bolt-ons, it would be a low 12 second car, that is EXTREMELY small for a M90... an aftermarket camshaft, intercooler, headers, and new injectors are a MUST to run anything lower than a 3.0

so once again, race a properly setup 2.7" pulley GTP and get back to me, that is EASILY a 11.9-12.1 car... and to run a 2.9" pulley, once again a big NO on the stock cam, injectors, no intercooler, etc...that is where the problem lies, the modded grand prixs in your area are owned by complete dumb asses....

and once you take away the stock cam, the top end being flat isn't exactly true, they still do fall flat, but at that point its about 140, which anyone who drag races doesn't care anyway
He has the Stage 2 double stack intercooler and h/e...and he's on 42lb injectors...i knew i was forgetting something. Headers with full 3" exhaust and no cats. He hasn't cammed it yet, but he wants to. I think he has 1.8 rockers too. Ported blower, ported lower manifold, Northstar Cadillac TB, lower thermostat... I've seen him take it to about 150-155 pretty damn quick on the interstate one night.

I think his is a 97-98...not sure of the year. Last time I talked to him, he was thinking about putting a 2.55 on it. I told him not to waste his time, that with the 2.7 he was prolly overspinning the blower anyway. He's got everything the cams.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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He has the Stage 2 double stack intercooler and h/e...and he's on 42lb injectors...i knew i was forgetting something. Headers with full 3" exhaust and no cats. He hasn't cammed it yet, but he wants to. I think he has 1.8 rockers too. Ported blower, ported lower manifold, Northstar Cadillac TB, lower thermostat... I've seen him take it to about 150-155 pretty damn quick on the interstate one night.

I think his is a 97-98...not sure of the year. Last time I talked to him, he was thinking about putting a 2.55 on it. I told him not to waste his time, that with the 2.7 he was prolly overspinning the blower anyway. He's got everything the cams.
probably 1.9 RRs, those are the highest people go on the stock valve train, once you throw in a cam, you have to go back to 1.6s, and ported Manifolds are good to about a 3.2" pulley, once again, he has entirely too small of a pulley for his setup, I'm sure he has it tuned to run it, but he'd be MUCH better off with a 3.2 or 3.1" with that setup
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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probably 1.9 RRs, those are the highest people go on the stock valve train, once you throw in a cam, you have to go back to 1.6s, and ported Manifolds are good to about a 3.2" pulley, once again, he has entirely too small of a pulley for his setup, I'm sure he has it tuned to run it, but he'd be MUCH better off with a 3.2 or 3.1" with that setup
Probably...my buddy has that 3.25 on stock injectors with just headers and intake and 1.6RR's. he melted the #1 spark plug, we changed it, then he smashed the top of the #3 plug flat. we replaced it and now he has an engine knock...

I told him to take it easy on it, that with no intercooler and that much boost he was gonna blow it up. To quote him "Nah man, this bitch will run forever"....yeah, now it sits in his garage waiting on him to pay off the junk yard for another motor.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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wtf is an srt-6??

and total link fail
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theyre really slow.

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And??

A heavily modded SS beat a stock SRT6? Is that supposed to be impressive?

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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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A heavily modded SS beat a stock SRT6? Is that supposed to be impressive?
I think it was eluding more to the fact that a stock looking SS ran an 11 sec pass being a 6000+lbs SUV on 20's.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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that SUV is the ****.........too bad it gets like 10 MPG lol
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
I think it was eluding more to the fact that a stock looking SS ran an 11 sec pass being a 6000+lbs SUV on 20's.

A 11 sec trailblazer is impressive. Based on the title though, I was very unimpressed.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
A 11 sec trailblazer is impressive. Based on the title though, I was very unimpressed.
Please...let me know in the future what title I should use to further your browsing enjoyment...
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