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Old 09-03-2012, 02:15 PM
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AEM wideband reading wrong?

so i have the AEM 30-4100 wideband. i installed it in my car when i was NA and when driving it pretty much went lean/rich all day and never read solid. it would go - - - at times and stuff. hit 12 than 16 and stuff. so i was liek wow my car is so off fuel trim wise.
well i recently supercharged my car. had a local shop do the install and tune.
and they were like yeah your wideband isnt even reading/working properly it just reads 14.8 and higher.
so i bought a new wideband sensor from summit racing. installed it yesterday and it still does the same thing.
i re grounded it with a better ground. the red wire i have fused taped in the passanger fuse box. but it doesnt read properly. anyone know why? i unplugged both connections in the back of the gauge and i plugged them back in and still no go. i bought the gauge new with everything included from a ebay seller.
i emailed the seller and he said to contact aem and if theres a problem get the reps name and he will take care of a warranty exchange.
but how would i know if something is wrong with this if it was brand new and everything.

can ANYONE help?
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I have the digital AEM Wideband gauge, I have a custom tune, and mine sweeps from 12.8 (Rich) in full boost - 15.8 (Lean) When regular driving.. and goes - - - when i let off the throttle.
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its always going to read a little higher and a little lower then 14.7, it just tries to average it, and it probably goes ---- when you let off the throttle because of the fuel cut off.
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i had the same issue, and talked to the reps as well from aem. I did the test where u remove the o2 from the harness, key on engine off it should read stoich and it did. So that usually rules out the controller. When u key the car on with the engine off it should do the number count on the gauge and the needle should sweep mine did that. I then did the brake clean test in the rag and no change, so i ordered a new o2 sensor. my wideband will sweep but like u it wont go below stoich only reads leaner.
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Originally Posted by zrated89
i had the same issue, and talked to the reps as well from aem. I did the test where u remove the o2 from the harness, key on engine off it should read stoich and it did. So that usually rules out the controller. When u key the car on with the engine off it should do the number count on the gauge and the needle should sweep mine did that. I then did the brake clean test in the rag and no change, so i ordered a new o2 sensor. my wideband will sweep but like u it wont go below stoich only reads leaner.
yeah thats what mine does.
so what do i do? because shouldnt it work properly because like i said mine doesnt go below 14.7
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just got back from a drive and at wot my afr was at 14.9 for a little than went higher. so idk if my gauge is messe up or what
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I might sell an autometer gauge if I don't trade it ......
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when i tested mine man it all pointed to the sensor. Did u do the two tests that i told u about?
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Originally Posted by CannonBalt
I have the digital AEM Wideband gauge, I have a custom tune, and mine sweeps from 12.8 (Rich) in full boost - 15.8 (Lean) When regular driving.. and goes - - - when i let off the throttle.
12.8 full boost?!?!?! You need a retune like now, that's super lean for boost
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Originally Posted by BankerBalt
12.8 full boost?!?!?! You need a retune like now, that's super lean for boost
Not at all, LNF's run .87-.88 PE all the time.
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so than i should just unplug the sensor from the harness. and turn the car onto accessory mode?
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What Afr should u see at full boost?
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Yes Brandon unplug the sensor and turn the car on. It should do the turn-on cycle thing then sit at 14.7

Originally Posted by bluestreaks
What Afr should u see at full boost?
It depends on the engine, forced induction type and aggressiveness of the tune. But a very general statement would be anywhere from 11.0-12.9
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well couldnt i just unplug the harness in back of the gauge that goes to the o2 sensor and see if it goes to 14.7?
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Yes do that. If it reads 14.7 the gauge is good. The plug it back in and take out the sensor. Leave it with regular air should go all the way lean. Then put it in a rag of gas or brake cleaner and it will go all the way rich. More than likely the tune is messed up.
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alright ill try when i get home. because i was noticing when i let off the throttle that it reads like 15 and stuff and doesnt run out like you guys said it would.
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unplugged the sensor harness from the back of the gauge and turned the car on, engine off and the gauge read 14.8..

does that mean my gauge is bad since its suppose to be 14,7
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No 14.8 or 14.7 is good
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mine was 1.01 lambda instead of 1.00 you and i are having the same exact issue i hope my sensor fixes mine lol
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mine deff didnt!

heres a vid
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...A9A6D12CCD.mp4
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when urs is leaning all the way out --- do u have ur foot off the gas? Even though mine wont scale below stoich mine doesnt keep flashing --- like yours is unless im off the accelertor
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Originally Posted by Cobalt08LS
Did you try testing the sensor? There's a YouTube video on it if you want to watch it. Type in AEM wideband test or something. Also you can get a wideband sensor from azone and it's the same sensor but a lot cheaper. This URL shows the part number.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...stores-285072/
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Originally Posted by Superbalt06
Did you try testing the sensor? There's a YouTube video on it if you want to watch it. Type in AEM wideband test or something. Also you can get a wideband sensor from azone and it's the same sensor but a lot cheaper. This URL shows the part number.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...stores-285072/
he's already tried replacing the sensor with a brand new AEM replacement
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Just for kicks, I would get a new harness for the gauge. It's like 20 bucks from Jeggs. I am willing to bet you have a tear in a wire or a bad connection in the harness which is throwing everything off.
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well i mean the whole harness is covered in that plastic coating stuff. my friend did see a small rip in that plastic on the end but inspected the wires and didnt see any that were actually shorted.

and the wideband DID go below 14.8 when i was NA. but it still went - - - and acted the same way it is now.
it just bounced lean and rich and cut out all day,


Originally Posted by zrated89
when urs is leaning all the way out --- do u have ur foot off the gas? Even though mine wont scale below stoich mine doesnt keep flashing --- like yours is unless im off the accelertor
all is normal highway driving and i dont think my foot let off the gas

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