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chris88z24 07-24-2008 11:32 PM

CEL, REDUCE ENGINE POWER, possible TPS error?
 
My car is gay. I Just installed stage 2 injectors, pulley, and a tune from xskier874 (thanks man) Ever since I put the 3" pulley on and have hit moderate boost (5psi at the max) the engine cuts out and goes into reduced power mode. We scanned for codes and got CPS learn error. Any ideas? I'm calling the dealer tomorrow. It's drivable, just does't go into boost.


UPDATE:


OK. Now the problem only occurs when I really floor it. It seems to happen in the upper RPM's (5000 and beyond). If I am cruising and hit boost it is fine. I reset it by unplugging both + and - terminals and touching them together, and by jiggling the connector around that sits under the TB. It clears the code, but it comes back and cuts power once the engine hits high RPMs (under boost)

HELP!! I'm in levittown, NY right now and have a 3 hour drive home. I don't want to limp the car back like I did on the way down. Argh..

Cobaltss/TC 07-24-2008 11:44 PM

Yup takes like a minute with the Tech 2

chris88z24 07-24-2008 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC (Post 2645671)
Yup takes like a minute with the Tech 2

So what do they do just plug it in and relearn it? It won't erase my tune I have on there will it?

Red2.4SS 07-24-2008 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2645748)
So what do they do just plug it in and relearn it? It won't erase my tune I have on there will it?

Nope wont erase it.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by Red2.4SS (Post 2645780)
Nope wont erase it.

Sweet. I'll have to get someone to relearn it tomorrow before my road trip. I drove 250 miles today with the car like this. Sucks so bad to drive a SS S/C in vacuum. :(

So do you guys think this will help fix it?

Well I let it sit for an hour. GO out and start it, no reduced power. BUT the CEL was on. I get to the end of my street and BAM reduced engine power kicks in :(

THIS SUCKS! I can feel the extra power from my pulley tune and injectors, then its all taken away from me. :( Worst feeling in the world.

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2645786)
Sweet. I'll have to get someone to relearn it tomorrow before my road trip. I drove 250 miles today with the car like this. Sucks so bad to drive a SS S/C in vacuum. :(

So do you guys think this will help fix it?

Usually does that computer needs to learn certain parameters from the cranks sensor and a few others.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC (Post 2646052)
Usually does that computer needs to learn certain parameters from the cranks sensor and a few others.

Theres a saturn dealer right by my house, i'll run it there first thing in the morning and have them try to relarn it.

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2646063)
Theres a saturn dealer right by my house, i'll run it there first thing in the morning and have them try to relarn it.

Yeah like i said earlier it only takes a minute make sure the car is warmed up makes it a lot faster. What they have to do with the Tech2 is select the year then power train then engine type then special functions the CKP relearn rev your engine until it hits fuel cut-out then bam it is done.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC (Post 2646069)
Yeah like i said earlier it only takes a minute make sure the car is warmed up makes it a lot faster. What they have to do with the Tech2 is select the year then power train then engine type then special functions the CKP relearn rev your engine until it hits fuel cut-out then bam it is done.

Yeah. I'll inform them of that just in case they are retarded. I hope it fixes it though.. it SUCKS so bad to drive in reduced power mode :(

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2646076)
Yeah. I'll inform them of that just in case they are retarded. I hope it fixes it though.. it SUCKS so bad to drive in reduced power mode :(

Yeah i would be pissed, damn computers

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC (Post 2646087)
Yeah i would be pissed, damn computers

i was pissed.. try driving 250 miles with it like that. And having mustangs and ricer scion tc's rev at you and blow by you.


AHH!!!!!!

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2646096)
i was pissed.. try driving 250 miles with it like that. And having mustangs and ricer scion tc's rev at you and blow by you.


AHH!!!!!!

Yeah i can understand. Well it should do the trick if not write back and maybe we can figure something else out.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC (Post 2646106)
Yeah i can understand. Well it should do the trick if not write back and maybe we can figure something else out.

ALright. The code was code 315 crank position not learned I believe. We tried clearing it in HP Tuners but it kept popping right back up. :(

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2646114)
ALright. The code was code 315 crank position not learned I believe. We tried clearing it in HP Tuners but it kept popping right back up. :(

Yeah it will keep coming back tell it is learned.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 12:55 AM

My buddy is going to do the relearn tomorrow at 1145. Hopefully that takes care of it and I can finally hit booooooost :) Thanks for your input/help btw man. Really appreciate it :) IMO this is how every thread on this forum should be. Helpful, friendly, and straight to the point. :lol:

advise 07-25-2008 12:57 AM

did you remove the pcm for tuning

Cobaltss/TC 07-25-2008 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2646123)
My buddy is going to do the relearn tomorrow at 1145. Hopefully that takes care of it and I can finally hit booooooost :) Thanks for your input/help btw man. Really appreciate it :) IMO this is how every thread on this forum should be. Helpful, friendly, and straight to the point. :lol:

No prob glad to help:cssNET:

chris88z24 07-25-2008 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by advise (Post 2646131)
did you remove the pcm for tuning

no. it did this before tuning as well. Don't know why. The key was left in the ACC position when I took the SC off so idk maybe a short or something. Or maybe the sensor is bad. Who knows. All started when I put my 3.0" pulley on.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 01:35 PM

WTF. Got the crankshaft relearned, ran great. I was testing out some WOT, ran fine. I hit 7k and shifted to 3rd and BAM,.. reduced engine power again! WTF!

The Tech 2 was saying throttle position sensor.. i think the code was p0122. but would that make the car go into limp mode?

Help! THis is so gay I have a 3 hour drive to long island soon :(

06blackg85ss 07-25-2008 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by chris88z24 (Post 2645511)
My car is gay. I Just installed stage 2 injectors, pulley, and a tune from xskier874 (thanks man) Ever since I put the 3" pulley on and have hit moderate boost (5psi at the max) the engine cuts out and goes into reduced power mode. We scanned for codes and got CPS learn error. Any ideas? I'm calling the dealer tomorrow. It's drivable, just does't go into boost.

I've been reading that it might need a CPS-relearn which can easily be done with a tech II scanner.. what do you guys think?

Too bad you didn't hold out til I was free

I'll be back tomorrow night from Jersey if you're still around, just not til really late, I'll be in Warwick NY on sunday tuning another turbo converted cobalt.

chris88z24 07-25-2008 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss (Post 2647886)
Too bad you didn't hold out til I was free

I'll be back tomorrow night from Jersey if you're still around, just not til really late, I'll be in Warwick NY on sunday tuning another turbo converted cobalt.

Alright. Can you PM me your cell? I'll be in levittown, LI so if the car is still acting up I will give you a call. I cleaned the TB and reset the computer to clear the codes.. took it out for a hammer and it was ok. But I didn't really beat on it. So we'll see. :cussing:

06blackg85ss 07-25-2008 02:40 PM

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chris88z24 07-26-2008 01:24 AM

OK. Now the problem only occurs when I really floor it. It seems to happen in the upper RPM's (5000 and beyond). If I am cruising and hit boost it is fine. I reset it by unplugging both + and - terminals and touching them together. It clears the code, but it comes back and cuts power once the engine hits high RPMs (under boost)

HELP!! I'm in levittown, NY right now and have a 3 hour drive home. I don't want to limp the car back like I did on the way down. Argh..

chris88z24 07-26-2008 12:41 PM

bumpp.. anyone have an idea as to what is going on? :(

chris88z24 07-28-2008 03:04 AM

bump :(

edited the 1st post...


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