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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Gauges Bottom Out & Power Steering Dead...

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When it does this, the power steering turns off too... and it always tells me I have low fuel... even though I have a full tank. Which leads me to believe it is an ECU problem.

It did this the entire time I had the car on. I turned the car off... checked all fuses and PCM/ECU connections... then started it up 15 minutes later and it ran fine. So I went to a store. Car off... went in. Came out... started it up... and it did that gauge **** again!

Turn it off & restart it 3 times and finally it was fine. Blah Blah Blah. Its pissing me off. I go to work, come home... and its doing the gauge **** again, as soon as I pulled into the driveway. **** that car.

It did this to me for like 5 days in December, I scheduled a service for the next week... and it stopped doing it the day I scheduled it.

And NOW it is doing it again.

I'm at 50k miles... so I only have the Powertrain Warranty left. I NEED someone to help me figure this out... I can't afford for the stealership to fix it. I checked almost all the fuses... and they all looked fine.

What I don't get, is that it is SOOO tempremental. It doesn't start doing it after a bump... it doesn't start doing it at certain MPH, RPM, or Temps. It just starts out of the middle of no where.

ACTUALLY, it did start this morning as I turned into my driveway... but what I don't get, is that if it is from turning... why didn't it do it the 15 other times I turned on my way home?

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Yea Mine Does The Same Thing I've Been To The Dealer 8+ Times And No Fix Yet I Have 18k On The Car
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Wow thats gay
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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I've Narrowed It Down To A Steering Colum Thing Or A Short In The Wiring Harness
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
Yea Mine Does The Same Thing I've Been To The Dealer 8+ Times And No Fix Yet I Have 18k On The Car
Damn... that sucks. When I talked to the dealer before... they thought it might have been a faulty PassKey system. But like I said... I pushed on the ECU connectors to make sure they were all tight that day... and then I didn't see it happen for another 4 months.

And it sucks that I am no longer under warranty!

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Wow thats gay
Tell me about it. This bitch is hard to turn at a stop with no power steering! Not to mention it "Ding Ding Ding's" like every 5 ****** seconds!

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I've Narrowed It Down To A Steering Colum Thing Or A Short In The Wiring Harness
Yes... I would have to agree. I would tear my Steering Column apart... but I don't know what to look for, and I know I'd never get it to go back together the way it came apart! Haha.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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new cluster?
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mkulrey13
new cluster?
Its not the cluster... if it were just the cluster... the power steering turn off.

I see that I didn't put that in the original post... UPDATED.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Check Fuses on interior passenger side panel...

P7X has this happen.. It was a fuse.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Check Fuses on interior passenger side panel...

P7X has this happen.. It was a fuse.
I checked them already and didn't see any blown.

Also, if a fuse was blown... don't you think that this would CONSTANTLY happen? Maybe not. I'll check them again when I wake up (I work nights).

But I am going to PM P7X... sweet... doesn't look like he gets on much... at all.

Bump!!!

BUMP! Someone has said that it is the Body Control Module...

Body control module, cobalt, w/keyless entry for a 2005: Retail = $350.00 GMPartsDirect = $182.00
Bump!

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Honestly, that's odd. Closest I have come has been the gauges reseting at highway speeds by zeroing out and then going back to the appropriate settings, no power steering or low fuel issues, though. I haven't experienced this.

Isn't that the security light turned on down by the tach?

I would guess that it's the passkey module. Do you keep heavy things on your keychain? Do you ever hit the steering column or keys w/ your knee while driving?
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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My gauges will jump/twitch a bit sometimes after I shut the car off but I haven't experienced any of this stuff you folks are talking about. Wow...
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
Honestly, that's odd. Closest I have come has been the gauges reseting at highway speeds by zeroing out and then going back to the appropriate settings, no power steering or low fuel issues, though. I haven't experienced this.

Isn't that the security light turned on down by the tach?

I would guess that it's the passkey module. Do you keep heavy things on your keychain? Do you ever hit the steering column or keys w/ your knee while driving?
Yeah... the security light comes on as soon as it happens.

I wouldn't think it would be the passkey either, mainly because PassKey's main function is to shut off the fuel so you can't steal the car... and that ain't happening.

I've hit my keys with my knees before yes. But I've never done it... and then this happen. And no... my keychain is light!
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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ground fault....
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
But I am going to PM P7X... sweet... doesn't look like he gets on much... at all.

P7X is getting an EVO...
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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when it starts happening mess with the tilt wheel...slam it up and down..when i do this it stops
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
when it starts happening mess with the tilt wheel...slam it up and down..when i do this it stops
Okay... I'll have to remember that. I think I might just try and take apart the steering console and check for loose wires, etc.

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when it starts happening mess with the tilt wheel...slam it up and down..when i do this it stops
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Yes I did. My car did the exact same thing. They replaced it at the dealer (Warrenty Work) and haven't had a problem since.
Slowbalt, he replaced his Body Control Module and it evidentally fixed the problem. If you are under warranty, tell them to replace that. If not... it's not TOO expensive on GMPartsDirect

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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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they already have replaced my bcm...ecm..pcm...
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Goddamn you guys have some strange problems with your cars!
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
they already have replaced my bcm...ecm..pcm...
Oh damn. SO they replaced your BCM and it still does it, huh?

Well ****. This is gay. It did it to me today... as I was getting on the interestate... rather quick.

Having no tach FTL.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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my car is doing the same stuff, but i lose all boost when it happens and it kicks power steering warning, esc warning as well as the lil lock security warning thing and since it started happening the air bag light has come on and stayed on. I used to kick a p101 code for the intake that i put on and that wasnt really anything cause id clear it and it would go back to boosting 20-25psi(i have the gm stage 1 kit) but now when all codes are cleared im very lucky to see it peak to 15. it keps kicking codes for missfires on every cylinder, and a check engine code RXE which i cannot find any info on and a ROR code as well as an underboost code and a code that says something like network missciommunication. my car is acting all kinds of squirrely. only mods i have done was an intake and intercooler and piping with bov, which was faulty so i just turned it all the way shut so no more boost leak there. im so frustrated with my car right now. it went from running great to abosulte ****. hell a 2.4 cavalier passed me the other day and i hung my head in shame. all this seemed to start when it started getting hot out, could the ecm be getting hot and messing up maybe? the previous owner had installed a fhood liner on the car.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joezombies
my car is doing the same stuff, but i lose all boost when it happens and it kicks power steering warning, esc warning as well as the lil lock security warning thing and since it started happening the air bag light has come on and stayed on. I used to kick a p101 code for the intake that i put on and that wasnt really anything cause id clear it and it would go back to boosting 20-25psi(i have the gm stage 1 kit) but now when all codes are cleared im very lucky to see it peak to 15. it keps kicking codes for missfires on every cylinder, and a check engine code RXE which i cannot find any info on and a ROR code as well as an underboost code and a code that says something like network missciommunication. my car is acting all kinds of squirrely. only mods i have done was an intake and intercooler and piping with bov, which was faulty so i just turned it all the way shut so no more boost leak there. im so frustrated with my car right now. it went from running great to abosulte ****. hell a 2.4 cavalier passed me the other day and i hung my head in shame. all this seemed to start when it started getting hot out, could the ecm be getting hot and messing up maybe? the previous owner had installed a fhood liner on the car.
So... no BPV either or? I suggest you replace the pipe with a solid peice and run stock bpv.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mkulrey13
So... no BPV either or? I suggest you replace the pipe with a solid peice and run stock bpv.
sorry i forgot to mention. i turned the bov completely shut so theres absolutely no leak there and set it back up running through the stock bpv. but car still makes no boost and very select times does it hit 5psi and maybe spike to 10 psi for a split second. just took it into the dealership(no warranty) and they are charging me $65 / hr to diagnose it. before i brought it to them i put the stock airbox back in which has a broken part where the oil breather connects. they called me up said they are going to replace the airbox whic is gonna cost me $80 for the part and that will fix every issue i am having. IDK how that tiny of a leak of non metered air into the system could cause codes for not only air meters, but missfires, power steering, esc,abs, airbags, cause my ac to go out and codes for ecm miss communications? besides all these problems started when it got hot out.

codes thrown are as follows:
P0101 mass air flow circuit range/ Performance problem
P0106 Manifold absolute pressure /barometric pressure circuit range/ performance problem
P0299 Fuel and air metering/ Turbocharger/ supercharger "A" underboost condition
P3331 unknown just says powertrain nothin on web about it.
P3400 Cylinder deactivation system bank 1
P0302 Cylinder 2 missfire. ( at different times ive thrown codes fr each of the cylinders missfiring)
U0073 network control module communication bus "A" off
RXE no info on this one nothing on web
ROR no info on this one nothing on web
those are pretty much all the codes ive ever thrown. the p0101 is very common due to my CAI and i usually just reset it and its all fine, but since it got hot it makes no diff. the RXE and ROR started when it got hot out and occur everytime i drive as well as the missfires and every other code.
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Sounds like this problem
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...roblem-275828/
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Update: the dealership called me today said that replacing the airbox fixed every problem but the underboost, so they were going to check the wastegate and actuator solenoid. they took it off and said there was nothing wrong with it( yet more money in labor) they put it back on and all the problems popped back up so they took out the battery and left it out put it back in and everything was fine and ran fine and drove fine except the airbag light is back on. i havent a clue and evidently they don't either. everything started when it got hot out. never had problems when it was cool out other than the p0101 code for my intake. so now im up to over $300 and im not even sure if when im on my way home from picking up my car if everything is gonna go haywire again! gm really needs to research this problem and come up with a unified solution!! if there is i am not aware and neither is the dealership.
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