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brandondrecksage Jan 28, 2009 07:33 PM

hvac malfuntion
 
I turned on my heat and move the knob to point it to the windshield and heard a loud pop. Now I don't get heat to the windshield. Anybody know how to take the dash out? could someone point me to a how to? I search but came up with nothing. thanks

383_Stroker Jan 28, 2009 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by brandondrecksage (Post 3385112)
I turned on my heat and move the knob to point it to the windshield and heard a loud pop. Now I don't get heat to the windshield. Anybody know how to take the dash out? could someone point me to a how to? I search but came up with nothing. thanks


Oh gawd... Taking that air box out is the worst part of taking one of these cars apart...

The dash is pretty self explainitory to take out.. it's just several layers of unbolting and removing... you gotta take out the main support behind the fire wall to get the air box out too.. this job sucks man..

The image below still isn't far enough apart to take the box out...

http://dladd.mpkdesign.com/gallery/d.../noname_2_.jpg

sport08 Jan 28, 2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by 383_Stroker (Post 3385189)
Oh gawd... Taking that air box out is the worst part of taking one of these cars apart...

The dash is pretty self explainitory to take out.. it's just several layers of unbolting and removing... you gotta take out the main support behind the fire wall to get the air box out too.. this job sucks man..

The image below still isn't far enough apart to take the box out...

http://dladd.mpkdesign.com/gallery/d.../noname_2_.jpg

LuLz

Coblasts Jan 28, 2009 09:03 PM

Pull off the Knob ,the pop you heard could of been the switch knob splitting.
Take a good look to see if its split by trying to spread it with a small screw driver.
The other stuff is all vacuum operated .

383_Stroker Jan 28, 2009 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Coblasts (Post 3385496)
The other stuff is all vacuum operated .

It actually has 3 little electric motors that run all the flaps in the box.

2 of them are easy to get to in the car... the other is possible.. but it will test you..

EX331 Jan 28, 2009 11:45 PM

My car goes in for service on Friday morning to replace the blower motor due to a chirping noise. Because of the seemingly labor intensive disassembly of the dashboard to get to the defective part, should I remove the wires for the emergency warning lights that I've installed?

To wit, I'm a volunteer fireman, and Ambulance attendant in New York State. The lights, Star ULB-9, one blue, the other green, are mounted on the rear view mirror bracket. The wires are tucked under the headliner and run to the right, and run under the A-Pillar cover and into the dashboard. They continue to run along the base of the glove compartment, then above the fuse block, eventually terminating just below the cup holder where they join in to wires that provide power to the lights, switch between blue and green, and to "switch on" the selected light. One switch is on the bezel between the steering column, and the selection switch is where the accessory power outlet would be below the HVAC controls.

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...ed23_thumb.jpg
For those interested, here's the wiring diagram.

brandondrecksage Jan 29, 2009 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by 383_Stroker (Post 3385578)
It actually has 3 little electric motors that run all the flaps in the box.

2 of them are easy to get to in the car... the other is possible.. but it will test you..

thanks, are all of the screw visible? Or is some it held in by clips like the trim? I have some car knowledge, but no real idea of where to start.

Zander916 Jan 29, 2009 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by EX331 (Post 3386483)
My car goes in for service on Friday morning to replace the blower motor due to a chirping noise. Because of the seemingly labor intensive disassembly of the dashboard to get to the defective part, should I remove the wires for the emergency warning lights that I've installed?

To wit, I'm a volunteer fireman, and Ambulance attendant in New York State. The lights, Star ULB-9, one blue, the other green, are mounted on the rear view mirror bracket. The wires are tucked under the headliner and run to the right, and run under the A-Pillar cover and into the dashboard. They continue to run along the base of the glove compartment, then above the fuse block, eventually terminating just below the cup holder where they join in to wires that provide power to the lights, switch between blue and green, and to "switch on" the selected light. One switch is on the bezel between the steering column, and the selection switch is where the accessory power outlet would be below the HVAC controls.

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...ed23_thumb.jpg
For those interested, here's the wiring diagram.


If it were me.... I'd probably just explain what you told us and ask them what they prefer you do or if they can set it back up the same when they are done.

Otherwise if you have doubt. I'd just remove them before you take it in.

brandondrecksage Jan 29, 2009 10:19 PM

I noticed today that the air doesn't go through the indicated vents...so if I have it pointed at the floor, its going through the middle vents and my face, if i have it towards the middle vents its hitting my feet, but nothing points it to the windshield...anybody have any ideas?

Sunburst_SS Jan 29, 2009 10:24 PM

probably the mode door/actuator in the case......to be sure you'd have to hook it up to a scan tool and see if the hvac module is actually sending out the correct setting compared to what you have selected.

LiL RoB Jan 29, 2009 10:39 PM

best thing is to have the module scanned as Sunburst_SS stated it sounds like the mode door bound up and may have stripped the plastic arm that attaches the door to the actuator

EX331 Jan 30, 2009 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Zander916 (Post 3388403)
If it were me.... I'd probably just explain what you told us and ask them what they prefer you do or if they can set it back up the same when they are done.

Otherwise if you have doubt. I'd just remove them before you take it in.

Good call, I'll ask them. Thanks.

brandondrecksage Jan 30, 2009 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Sunburst_SS (Post 3392522)
probably the mode door/actuator in the case......to be sure you'd have to hook it up to a scan tool and see if the hvac module is actually sending out the correct setting compared to what you have selected.

like a tech 2? today it only blows one way now not matter what the dial says.

Sunburst_SS Jan 30, 2009 10:25 PM

yes, a tech2.......you should be able to monitor the output from the hvac module. If it is commanding the selected mode, and it still doesn't work......then you most likley have a problem with either the mode door, or the mode door actuator. Either way, you will be taking a few things apart to fix it :)


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