First real problem with this car since purchase, not counting the various interior squeaks / rattles.

Ran some errands early Saturday afternoon, everything was fine. Get back in the car for work less than two hours later, and nothing. Battery is fine, but it won't even crank. First thought was fuel pump, but then it should crank and fire, if only for a few seconds. Checked fuses and relays under hood, and all seems ok. Thinking either the clutch sensor or the starter? Or maybe even the factory security system? Not sure if that even has a starter kill, though.

Had it towed today to the dealership, and got a 7:15 appt tomorrow morning. Just curious if this, or something similar, has happened to anyone else here. Comments? Input?

 

I think someones car wouldnt start after a clutch install, its a new thread to.

 

Any codes (DTCs) that were stored in the PCM's history?

 

did you try poppin the battery, and then reconnecting?

 

mine wouldn't, but that was because the clutch and flywheel was too tall, and would scrap against the trans, but then he wouldn't be able to go at all after the install.

now the clutch switch, maybe. That would make it so you wouldn't even crank. It would be like trying to start the car without pushing in the clutch.

 

Only P0230, but that may have come from me switching the fuel pump relay with another Cobalt, and plugging it into the wrong slot at first.

I also tried the battery - nothing.

 

Could be lots of things, but I know the crankshaft position sensor has been known the go bad and cause this type of problem.

 

That couldn't be since my car didn't throw a CEL and we made the same mistake plugging my relay back into my car.

 

If the sensor was bad the car would at least crank ( turn over ) but not start or run like crap. If its not doing anything at all, I would suspect the neutral safety switch, starter or relays. Pop start the car, if it runs, then you know its not the sensors, and either starter or relay.

 

Just to make sure, you're saying that the car won't even attempt to turn over correct? As in the starter solenoid isn't even clicking?

 

No it would not turn over. We didn't hear the fuel pump either. I don't remember if it clicked or not when turning the key.

 

After you pulled the negative cable and then turned the car back on did the code reset itself?

 

If the CKP is bad the car WILL NOT crank at all. It will do nothing at all when you turn the key.

I got the same code when I did this as well... P0230 after i kept trying to start the car with the relay in the wrong spot...

 

Have we tried pop starting this car yet?

 

Did not try pop starting, but it probably would have worked. Got it back yesterday afternoon, and it was the clutch sensor. It wasn't communicating with the PCM, so the car didn't know I was pressing the clutch, and therefore wouldn't engage the starter. Thanks for the input, guys!

 

Sweet... warranties rock... lol

 

haha! I win!

 

Sweet, glad to hear its all set!

 

X2, glad to hear that you didn't have to jump through hoops to get something fixed.

 

YAY! It's all better now.

 

Wrong! (as in TOTALLY incorrect)Exactly! Good advice
Wop
<EDIT> Glad to hear you got it fixed up

 

When my cousin's CKP was going bad it would through a code and the car would not crank AT ALL. As in, it wouldn't crank PERIOD. Now as soon as the CKP was replaced the car turned right over and has never had a problem again. Now how could replacing the CKP have caused the car to start cranking again if this was totally not possible? I am just wondering how something that is totally incorrect fixed the problem??

 

In every thread I've seen where the CKP sensor failed, the car was redlining in 2nd, shut off for no apparent reason, started right back up but idled like **** and in limp mode, with a DTC for the sensor failing. If your friend's car wouldn't crank at all, there may have been something else preventing it.

 

Easy, you were given bad or incomplete information is all. There is NO WAY a bad CKP will result in a NO CRANK scenario. If you dont believe me try unplugging it, trust me it will still crank, (just wont start)
Wop

 

That wasn't what fixed his car. It was his clutch pedal sensor. If that goes out it will cause a no crank condition.