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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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transaxle differential exploded!!

Anyone else have this problem? I have an 07 cobalt ss/sc with gm stage 2pully kit and nothing else yet. I was driving home from my friends house going up a hill and i had momentum about 30 mph and i was kinda dodging trafic up the hill so i got on the gas then all of a sudden there was a loud POP under the car and the car jerked to the right. so i pulled over and took a look under the car and my heart droped there was a large hole neer the center line of the car just above where the axles meet.... I found literally 6 1sq in. pieces of alluminum under my car in a massive oil spill coming from my car so i get to the dealer and they say a rep from Gm is coming to the dealer to verify if its a warranty or not i got my car with 4 miles now at 21k and hoping it all goes well looking for any feedback on it plzz help
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Warranty SHOULD cover it. I highly doubt they deny that. Sounds crazy. Hope you get her fixed soon.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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99% of the time diff pins blow out from doing burnouts and spinning 1 tire. i see a lot of diff failures at work (im a trans tech and diff builder) and every time a pin is blown out the vehicle shows signs of abuse. things like rubber in the fender well, rubber on the side of the car or rims, water spray along the body, and scratch markes in the tread of the tire are dead give aways of spinng the tires. if gm spotsa any of the key things on your car, they can deny you warrnety
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:58 AM
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99% of the time diff pins blow out from doing burnouts and spinning 1 tire. i see a lot of diff failures at work (im a trans tech and diff builder) and every time a pin is blown out the vehicle shows signs of abuse. things like rubber in the fender well, rubber on the side of the car or rims, water spray along the body, and scratch markes in the tread of the tire are dead give aways of spinng the tires. if gm spotsa any of the key things on your car, they can deny you warrnety
the dealer which i brought it to said they think its a "pin" but i don't trust them i havent pushed my car hard since late july we had our first big snow fall here and i did have to rock my carto get out of a snowbank.... do u think that that coulda done some dmg to the diff? i mean i am not new to driving its just my first "performance" car i learned how to drive stick with it when it comes to burnouts ive never done any with itwhen it comes to spining the wheels it occours when i am merging on wet surfaces but not intentionally but it happens some times

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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So the worst case senario is that i would need to buy a replacement transaxle. Would i be able to put the 09 ss/tc transaxle in its place? My original had an open diff i would be looking at the lsd.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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spinning the tires or rocking the car in the snow is the worst thing and that causes diff failure. we have had a huge snowfall in my area and since it started ive been fixing nothing but blown up diffs.

the tc tranny has some diferentces and i dont think would bolt right in, however you can get an lsd in the ss/sc tranny.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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pics?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
spinning the tires or rocking the car in the snow is the worst thing and that causes diff failure. we have had a huge snowfall in my area and since it started ive been fixing nothing but blown up diffs.
I've never heard that before, why is that?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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to the op...take pics and send them to shep transmissions.... or take pics and send them to me.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Must not exist if you haven't heard of it before, obviously.

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I've never heard that before, why is that?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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I've never heard that before, why is that?
with an open differential, when one tire spins and the other is stopped the tire thats spinning actualy spins at 2x the normal speed. what happens is the spider gears are spinning so fast that it cant get lubrication between the diff pin and spider gears, and the gears begin to weld themselves to the pin because of exesse heat. when that happens, something has to give. there is a little rollpin to hold the diff pin in place, with the spiders now welding themselves to the diff pin, this roll pin shears off and the diff pin now spins in the diff carrier and is loose. it only takes time to work its way out of the carrier and hit the case and blow a hole in it, destroying the transmission.

this is just because the design of an open diff, it will happen in any vehicle, fwd or rwd.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by idlingmike
Must not exist if you haven't heard of it before, obviously.
Or I was asking a genuine question because I didn't understand why, and you decided to be a tool.

Originally Posted by Sharkey
with an open differential, when one tire spins and the other is stopped the tire thats spinning actualy spins at 2x the normal speed. what happens is the spider gears are spinning so fast that it cant get lubrication between the diff pin and spider gears, and the gears begin to weld themselves to the pin because of exesse heat. when that happens, something has to give. there is a little rollpin to hold the diff pin in place, with the spiders now welding themselves to the diff pin, this roll pin shears off and the diff pin now spins in the diff carrier and is loose. it only takes time to work its way out of the carrier and hit the case and blow a hole in it, destroying the transmission.

this is just because the design of an open diff, it will happen in any vehicle, fwd or rwd.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Kinda glad I went through the hassle of putting an LSD tranny in my car now.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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How much is the trans with the lsd cause I had to rock the car as well I got stuck twise lol
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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I got mine from a junkyard for about $1100 shipped, but it was the cheapest one on there by about $200.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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How much is the trans with the lsd cause I had to rock the car as well I got stuck twise lol
I got a good used one I'll let go, make me an offer
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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ive blown five of these tranys now like this... 2 new -2 used- and one just slaped together from the broken 4, just picked the best pieces that i could use and the one thats in my car now has lasted the longest " i use my own type of oil mix " ond still havent had any problems with it..has 35000 miles on this one heres a few pics of mine

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hahahahahah lol carnage first 2 were stock the other 3 were supercharged btw these are from a 06 2.2 LS that made 243hp with only stage 2 pully and injectors, full exhaust...

im still the 1st 2.2 supercharged...
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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i dont know what your doing to blow trannys up like that, a friend of mine has a 2.2l turbo ecotec in a 90 sunbird thats around 300whp, never had an issue. hahn has over 200 passes on the 550hp drag sunfire, and street driving and no failures that ive heard of.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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hahns car is a auto....in less im mistaken.... are you sure its a 2.2 ecotec.. and not a pre ecotec becouse inless hes swaped the engine and trans 90s sunfires never had ecos in them.. they had 2.2 ohvs and 2.2 quad 4s that is basicly a dohc 2.2 and they had 2.2 pre ecotecs whitch has different trans and are not get-a-rag becouse they are going to break..... in less im wrong..
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowshowbalt
hahns car is a auto....in less im mistaken.... are you sure its a 2.2 ecotec.. and not a pre ecotec becouse inless hes swaped the engine and trans 90s sunfires never had ecos in them.. they had 2.2 ohvs and 2.2 quad 4s that is basicly a dohc 2.2 and they had 2.2 pre ecotecs whitch has different trans and are not get-a-rag becouse they are going to break..... in less im wrong..
i think it was a 2.4L quad 4 (LD9) not a 2.2 , i had one in a Z24.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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I was told at the dealership I get my SS serviced at that GM is denying warranty on these transmissions no matter what.
How the hell can that be?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Italian joe how much will you let it go and were you at id prefer local be easier for me to pick it up lol
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Adirondack_Cobalt
I was told at the dealership I get my SS serviced at that GM is denying warranty on these transmissions no matter what.
How the hell can that be?
! Come on don't tell me that guys. my dealer outsourced the transaxle to some transmission place for inspection i guess that means they didn't see any evidence of aggressive driving on my car but i hope HOPE u was miss informed..
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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http://www.turbosystem.com/ProjectVe...ire%20heat.htm thats the link to the hahn sunfire. its clearly an 02+ wich had the eco, it clearly has the ecotec under the hood, and if you watch the videos you can tell its a stick (bring up the rpm and drop the clutch in the burnout).
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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I saw the hahns sunfire personally they came to our meet I got pics of the inside ill see if I can find the cam and see if its auto or manual lol and I think it is a eco tech
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