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Using a dishsoap like Dawn will actually do it in one wash . And like you said , its perfectly fine and excepted in the detail industy as a GOOD starting point to remove old product to have a surface free from any old waxes ect. . It would take several washes with a >>Mild<< soap like Dawn to cause harm . Before a wax is the only time youd want use dishsoap .
Nelson - Ultimately everyone has their own methods ...if what your doing works for you ....great ! . I just dont agree when someone doesnt like a particular method and will spread the word about it as being bad . Even a well respected company like Zaino recommends you thouroughly wash down your car with Dawn before applying their products . I keep mentioning Dawn( the original not the super concentrated ) because it is a very mild soap soap in comparison to most others .
Nelson - Ultimately everyone has their own methods ...if what your doing works for you ....great ! . I just dont agree when someone doesnt like a particular method and will spread the word about it as being bad . Even a well respected company like Zaino recommends you thouroughly wash down your car with Dawn before applying their products . I keep mentioning Dawn( the original not the super concentrated ) because it is a very mild soap soap in comparison to most others .
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That is the point! You don't want to do your every day car wash with it but when your sole intention is to do paint correction the wax will do nothing but get in your way. So this IS NOT A BAD IDEA and the person that told you that should not be handing out shitty info. Yes when washing and maintaining your car YES you want to use a nice soap and not dish soap. I don't go to car washes for this reason right there. The people that work there think just because that's what they do they are good at it. I am not saying that you can't do a good job but you should know that if you are doing paint correction you don't want to waste time buffing through the wax to get to the clear. For the OP I think if he would of used a dish soap to got most of the wax off(it would take several wash's with dish soap to pull all the wax off) the clay would have worked much more efficient and pulled the wax and the gunk that is stuck on and in the wax.
I agree with you on maintaining your car you don't want to use that I wanted to stress that you don't use dishwashing soap to wash your car regularly. People need to relax a little on here jeez... I'm not here to take pot-shots at people [B]The people that work there think just because that's what they do they are good at it.
WTF?!?!?!?!?!
you are joking, please for the love of God tell me you are joking.
again, what the hell are you smoking? white cars dont get swirls? they might not be AS noticeable, but they are def. present.
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And tell me what's wrong with using something like simple green is wrong for a lubricant...
because its an APC. would you wash your car with it? would you quick detail your car with it? would you use it after a wash to protect the paint? no. its not not meant for automotive paint. thats like me saying id use super clean on it. that is freaking retarded.
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I respect your work through pics I've seen but as stated earlier... there is no "end all, be all" for detailing. So if you can tell me the difference between those, if there really is any, I'd appreciate it. But if there is no substantial difference, then I'll trust a paint company's stance
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Nelson - There really was no conflict on my end . You just continually keep saying u shouldnt use dish soap to wash ur car , when NO ONE is recommending that at all . Only before I clay and what ever level of detail ur gonna perform .
ONR also makes for a great clay solution .
ONR also makes for a great clay solution .
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I wouldn't wash my car with it... at my detail place we use this when we clay... http://www.wcdetail.com/scripts/prod...?idproduct=168 I don't see much of a difference between this and simple green and I wouldn't wash my car with it or quick detail my car. The point of a lubricant is to not have the bare clay against the paint/debris... giving it a bufferzone, if you will. I am always willing to hear other opinions and to learn new things so don't jump down my throat I respect your work through pics I've seen but as stated earlier... there is no "end all, be all" for detailing. So if you can tell me the difference between those, if there really is any, I'd appreciate it. But if there is no substantial difference, then I'll trust a paint company's stance
I respect your work through pics I've seen but as stated earlier... there is no "end all, be all" for detailing. So if you can tell me the difference between those, if there really is any, I'd appreciate it. But if there is no substantial difference, then I'll trust a paint company's stance
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People are only "jumping your ****" because of the way you are coming across in your posts. Having different ways and techniques are great but on forums with so many people that have no clue on the process's we are discussing will take certain things as fact when said the wrong way. These people need to be thought all the processes and figure out what works best for them, not persuaded into thinking your way is the only way just because you type like you know what you are talking about(to them). I can't say that I am the best, but there are some people here that know what they are talking about and there work speaks for its self.
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