ok I am look at getting a buffer. I have narrowed it down to a few "kits"

http://www.autodetailingsolutions.co...0-polisher.htm
Package #4 DA Polisher Professional Paint Reconditioning Kit
1 Meguiar's G110 Polisher (1 Year Warranty)
1 W67DA Velcro Backing Plate
1 W7006 Foam Cutting Pad
2 W8006 Foam Polishing Pad
1 W9006 Foam Finishing Pad
1 C2000 Light Blue Mild Clay Bar (Large)
1 D15532 Last Touch Detailer Spray 32 oz. Concentrate
1 D15132 Paint Reconditioning Cream 32 oz.
1 M8032 Speed Glaze 32 oz.
1 M2116 Synthetic Paint Sealant 16 oz.
3 16 x 16 Microfiber Towels
2 Ultimate DA Microfiber Bonnets
1 Duffel Bag
Internet Special
$249.99


https://store.mothers.com/product_in...id=110&cPath=4
Polisher comes with:
PowerPolish®, #08616
PowerWax®, #08716
Polishing Cloth, #90-155200
Foam Pads, #90-90031 (2)
Rugged Carrying Case
$80.00


https://store.mothers.com/index.php?cPath=4
Carnauba Cleaner Wax
PowerPolish
PowerWax
FX SynWax
PowerBall 4Paint
PowerBall Mini
$70

 

Those all suck, the meguiars would be the better of the 3.

 

well i am totally new to buffing, but not to detailing and i don't need something pro, but just to make things quicker.

 

First one doesn't seem too bad, but the second and third are mediocre at best. The only DA polishers you'll really want to look at are the Porter Cable 7424, the Ultimate Detailing Machine, the Flex, or the G110. There are others out there, but these are the ones that are most frequently used in detailing circles.

 

porter cable 7424, end of story

 

I would do more research on paint polishing/detailing and create a custom "kit", but out of your 3 choices, the Meguiar's is the best.

 

some one should make a how to on buffing

 

You may find this information helpful

The Porter Cable 7424 dual-action car polisher started the pro-consumer car polisher market life more than a decade ago. The machine started as a sander for woodworkers. Much like custom car builders, fine furniture artisans sculpt a piece of furniture, stain it to a desired color, then spray it with multiple coats of clear polyurethane. To achieve the final finish, they wet sand, compound, polish and wax.

With the introduction of foam polishing pads into the paint and body industry in the 1970's, it’s not hard to see how the Porter Cable 7424 came into use on car finishes. Since the late 1990's, the Porter Cable 7424 polisher has gained recognition as one of the most effective and safest polishers for car enthusiasts and car detailers alike.
A dual-action car polisher (often called "random orbit" or "orbital") is a machine that operates by orbiting the polishing pad around a center spindle while the pad freely spins on its own axis. A counterweight on the opposite side of the center spindle dampens vibration for smooth operation.

The tool head action, often called orbital, prevents the creation of holograms (symmetrical buffing marks), paint burns and other forms of paint damage often associated with high-speed buffing machines.

Some people have defined a dual-action polisher's tool action as “jiggling”, but this is not the case. The head freely rotates on a bearing and orbits around the centerline driveshaft. Rotation is a free-wheeling action of the backing plate spindle caused by the orbiting head. This “dual-action” is where the Porter Cable 7424 gets its “DA” nickname.


To operate the machine, follow these simple instructions:

Your car must be freshly washed and dry. Do not buff on a dirty finish.

Work in an area with good lighting. Overhead fluorescent or halogen lighting is best.

Remove all rings, watches, bracelets, belts and other items that will scratch your paint.

Wear an apron to protect your clothing and the paint finish.

Adjust the machine speed to 3 or 4 on the thumbwheel. This is a good starting point.

With the machine switched off, apply a small amount of polish, cleaner or wax directly to the polishing pad.

There are two good methods that seem to work.

Squeeze out a complete ring of product about 1 inch in from the outside of the pad, or squeeze out an “X” of product across the pad.

Dab the pad in 3-4 spots around the area to be polished, cleaned or waxed to distribute the product.

Position the polisher flat on the work surface, get a firm grip and switch it on with your thumb.

Move the polisher back and forth (east/west) in a slow, sweeping motion, overlapping each pass (by 50% of the pad width) with the previous, and then switch your pattern to up and down (north/south).

It is not necessary to apply more than a pound of pad pressure. Allow the polisher to work under its own weight.

Use a clean pad with each product. Do not mix products on a pad. If a pad is not dirty, you may store it in a Ziploc baggie for future use.

Be sure to label the baggie or the pad.

If a pad becomes caked with product, use a nylon or horsehair detailing brush to clean the pad.

Sounds pretty simple, doesn’t it? It really isn’t difficult. Within a few minutes of use, most people are very comfortable operating the machine.

 

autogeek.net has a very good starting package....it has

Porter Cable 7424
5 Inch Backing Plate
2-CCS White 6.5 Inch Polishing Foam Pads
2-CCS Gray 6.5 Inch Finishing Foam Pads
1-CCS Blue 6.5 Inch Finessing Foam Pad
2 Cobra Indigo Edgeless Microfiber Polishing Cloths
12 oz. Pinnacle XMT Polishing Pad Cleaner
12 oz. Pinnacle XMT Polishing Pad Conditioner
1 Flat Wrench & 1 Counterweight
and 2 microfiber bonnets.....

also you will want to pick up some orange pads possibly....autogeek is the best tho....

 

you dont need a how-to, go to www.autogeek.net look through there PC packages and almost all of them have a video series to teach you the basics

 

yes.....


also hatrickstu

if i use a simple carnuba wax will it hurt to wax every 2 weeks....thats how often i wash my car and i like to know its looking its best so i figured i would just wax every time.... also the 7424 works great unbeleivably easy

 

that is not a true buffer more like an orbital polisher

 

i was referring to what what a noob should be looking into its pretty hard to beat its ease of use and effectiveness at its price

 

oh well then yes you are 100% corect sorry I miss under stood

 

i dont see why the porter cable is considered a noob tool....i mean you still use it and you are way better than "noob"

 

its cool, i know you are quite smart on this material

because it doesnt take alot of experience to master, and is pretty forgiving

 

could either of you answer my question in the earlier post....thanks

 

I think you could scool me as well

 

you arent going to hurt anything by doing it, if you do it correctly. make sure you dont have any residual dirt on the car otherwise, you are going to be getting more swirls. just gotta make sure the paint is clean everytime

 

well it would only happen after i wash the car so there wouldnt be any dirt....thanks

 

well i think i am still just going to stick to washing/waxing by hand for now. but thanks for the good info.

 

you dont need a buffer to wax doing it by hand is just fine the only time you could really use it is for polishes and sealers that require more speed than you can do by hand

 

and compounds

 

^^^ well my three step system. I was more or less looking for something to cut time and that was it.

 

a buffer will cut time and you wont look like you have a masturbation problem because of your one huge arm