This Makes Baby Jesus Cry
This Makes Baby Jesus Cry
Where to start....
A past customer (the STi I detailed) brought me his father's 2002 MB SLK 230. "Rough Shape," would have been a compliment to this condition of this paint, it made Zak's truck (pre correction) look like it just rolled out of the paint booth. It seriously looked like someone had washed it with sand and steel wool pad. Anyways, there are ALOT of pics, but take a look.
After wash, clay, and rewash-


Not too bad, eh? Wrong, you fail.

This car had so much **** IN the paint that after claying THREE times, the water/soap coming off the clay used for lubrication was black-

Here are before/after and 50/50's-



















A past customer (the STi I detailed) brought me his father's 2002 MB SLK 230. "Rough Shape," would have been a compliment to this condition of this paint, it made Zak's truck (pre correction) look like it just rolled out of the paint booth. It seriously looked like someone had washed it with sand and steel wool pad. Anyways, there are ALOT of pics, but take a look.
After wash, clay, and rewash-


Not too bad, eh? Wrong, you fail.

This car had so much **** IN the paint that after claying THREE times, the water/soap coming off the clay used for lubrication was black-

Here are before/after and 50/50's-



















Last edited by hatrickstu; Jun 25, 2008 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
shake and bake, shake and bake
Last edited by hatrickstu; Jun 25, 2008 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
So because of all the "mistreatment" of the paint and the extra effort, did you charge extra?
That is a crazy difference in appearance! Most people would be complacent with just getting the dirt off and calling it a day but for those in the know, such as yourself, those hairlines are just barf-tastic. KUDOS to you. That's quality work
How much to come to Chicago?
That is a crazy difference in appearance! Most people would be complacent with just getting the dirt off and calling it a day but for those in the know, such as yourself, those hairlines are just barf-tastic. KUDOS to you. That's quality work
How much to come to Chicago?
So because of all the "mistreatment" of the paint and the extra effort, did you charge extra?
That is a crazy difference in appearance! Most people would be complacent with just getting the dirt off and calling it a day but for those in the know, such as yourself, those hairlines are just barf-tastic. KUDOS to you. That's quality work
How much to come to Chicago?
That is a crazy difference in appearance! Most people would be complacent with just getting the dirt off and calling it a day but for those in the know, such as yourself, those hairlines are just barf-tastic. KUDOS to you. That's quality work
How much to come to Chicago?
Last edited by hatrickstu; Jun 26, 2008 at 12:36 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
you are right, but i honestly dont know how to ask for $500 for one of these haha. once i get my customer base built up im sure ill start asking for that. prices are going up right now though
no orange ccs pads for me, i really do not like their orange pad. i use the orange light cut pads that autogeek advertises big time. NEVER had a bad experience with them. i probably should have started with an extra cut compound though, but i didnt realize how hard this paint was. faggin ridiculous
Again my humble 0.02 if I may,
Explain to them why one detail is $150.00 and the other is $500.00 you should take some pictures of some of those jobs, then you need to explain to them and they can visualize exactly what is it that you are talking about, it may cost you $30.00 dollars to make some small type of book but trust me is worth it, during that process you must explain that the $500.00 detail included paint correction, which you will have to explain even further, in addition explain that the process takes multiple steps 4-5 or as needed.
For travelling you should average what you make in a week, if you do 2 or 10 cars a week, if you travel then you will loose those business plus those earnings, thats why at times you see people paying outrageous prices for detail, they are been compensated for the lose of business plus the expertise, to all of that you have to add the cost of the products, good products costs, is that simple, some products are more inexpensive and the look may be deceiving but the durability and the protection are the trust test of good products.
If asking is the concern you can provide 3 packages, package A, a simple detail $125.00, package B $150.00 package C $ 500.00 right now if you are doing package C for the price of package A the only winner is the customer, he is getting all of that for free, theres no need to prove to anyone that you do good quality work, you have proven that over and over, now is time to take your talents to the next level.
Explain to them why one detail is $150.00 and the other is $500.00 you should take some pictures of some of those jobs, then you need to explain to them and they can visualize exactly what is it that you are talking about, it may cost you $30.00 dollars to make some small type of book but trust me is worth it, during that process you must explain that the $500.00 detail included paint correction, which you will have to explain even further, in addition explain that the process takes multiple steps 4-5 or as needed.
For travelling you should average what you make in a week, if you do 2 or 10 cars a week, if you travel then you will loose those business plus those earnings, thats why at times you see people paying outrageous prices for detail, they are been compensated for the lose of business plus the expertise, to all of that you have to add the cost of the products, good products costs, is that simple, some products are more inexpensive and the look may be deceiving but the durability and the protection are the trust test of good products.
If asking is the concern you can provide 3 packages, package A, a simple detail $125.00, package B $150.00 package C $ 500.00 right now if you are doing package C for the price of package A the only winner is the customer, he is getting all of that for free, theres no need to prove to anyone that you do good quality work, you have proven that over and over, now is time to take your talents to the next level.
haha, i bet you had a good time working this paint. I'm sorry, i thought you used the CCS pads for polishing. now that i read up on it, you use them for finishing if i have that right.
I'm going to be experimenting with a friends old Cyclo buffer today. I think i really need to pick up a DA for my arsenal to back up my Makita 9227. I'm curious how much i will need to work the cyclo to get the results of the PC or the UDM.
I'm going to be experimenting with a friends old Cyclo buffer today. I think i really need to pick up a DA for my arsenal to back up my Makita 9227. I'm curious how much i will need to work the cyclo to get the results of the PC or the UDM.
You are right in every bit of that man and I really do appreciate it. I am actually working on that book today and printing off alot of pictures. I guess i better step on up on my next big job. ill let you guys know if i get laughed at!
indeed
lots of trial and error, and reading. alot of reading
indeed
lots of trial and error, and reading. alot of reading
Last edited by hatrickstu; Jun 26, 2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
haha, i bet you had a good time working this paint. I'm sorry, i thought you used the CCS pads for polishing. now that i read up on it, you use them for finishing if i have that right.
I'm going to be experimenting with a friends old Cyclo buffer today. I think i really need to pick up a DA for my arsenal to back up my Makita 9227. I'm curious how much i will need to work the cyclo to get the results of the PC or the UDM.
I'm going to be experimenting with a friends old Cyclo buffer today. I think i really need to pick up a DA for my arsenal to back up my Makita 9227. I'm curious how much i will need to work the cyclo to get the results of the PC or the UDM.










