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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Water Runs Won't Come Off...

So, I just gave my car a really good wash and whatnot...

I wiped it pretty dry, and it looked fine. But once it dried, it looked pretty much like before, but worse.

I'm not getting water spots, they are more like run marks, but I don't get it since the car was pretty much dry when I left it and this looks like I just let it dry without doing anything to it. It's on both the windows and the paint.

I rinsed the car again, and wiped it down again but they came back. I used that Stoner's Invisible Glass on the windows and it did nothing.

Help! What can I use to get this cleared up? I have a black car so it's super crappy looking right now.

Edit - I just used some quick detailer, and it looks a lot better. But I'll still claybar it tomorrow...

EDIT the 2nd - I just used a claybar and waxed it. Looks amazing. Pics tomorrow.

Here is a pic of the hood...

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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try a claybar and some wax. will clear it right up. but to keep it simple, black is a BITCH to keep clean. mine stays clean for about a day or so after i wax and claybar.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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I'm so afraid to claybar it though... I hear if you do it wrong you just scratch the crap out of the paint...
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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What are you drying it with?? When your wiping it down you might be creating streaks. Buy a schammy when it starts streaking ring it out and then keep on going. If thats not the case then sorry for wasting your time.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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^^ That's exactly what I did... grrrr...
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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^^ That's exactly what I did... grrrr...
What did you do?? Used a schammy? Otherwise you have really really hard water!! Especially if glass cleaner doesnt get it off. oh well good luck.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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That's the thing... it's never done this before so I don't know what is going on...
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Agreed Claybar and wax. Miguires gold series is what i found works best. Clay bar will get rid of all the imputities that the paint pores pick up. then use a wax to protect it. For winter weather do about 3 or for coats of a polymer or polymer blend. works best against salt and all the other things that DOT uses for the road. Caranuba gives a good shine but protection don't last to long in the winter. Gold series is a polymer/caranuba blend best of both worlds and works great!

For your windows your can water spot treat them with some Fine Fine Steel wool and glass cleaner. I use the invisible glass as well with it works awsome! if not mothers has this Aluminum and mag polish for like 5 bucks that stuff works really well too! After removing the spots protect it with Rain-x or Stoner has a product called "Speed Bead" thats an aroesel spay wax. works good too.

Try this and it Should help you out.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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i wished you people lived closer to me haha. id never run out of business!!! you need to wax it
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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go get a little spray bottle then take the clay bar in one hand while spraying the surface wet with water and then taking the clay bar and using that, then go buy meguars or whatever wax you wanna use i use the 3 step meguar process if i really need a wax and it should be out for sure then
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitnith
I'm so afraid to claybar it though... I hear if you do it wrong you just scratch the crap out of the paint...
that's not true. you just want to wash the car first, and make sure you use a quick detail spray. as long as you keep the car well lubed, you won't have a problem.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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try some wax
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastSS
go get a little spray bottle then take the clay bar in one hand while spraying the surface wet with water and then taking the clay bar and using that, then go buy meguars or whatever wax you wanna use i use the 3 step meguar process if i really need a wax and it should be out for sure then
i would recommend using a quick detailer, not water. water doesn't quite give the "slickness" needed, and won't do as good a job, though it will still work.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Oh. heh. Guess I forgot to type everything...

I already waxed it, hoping it would get rid of it. Didn't work...

And pic added.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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I use the detailer after the clay bar, thing is the clay bar leaves some residue behind which i just clean up with the detailer in the end

go get a buffer those look like easy marks to get out

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitnith
Oh. heh. Guess I forgot to type everything...

I already waxed it, hoping it would get rid of it. Didn't work...

And pic added.
that's after a wax? are you sure you used wax? it def. shouldn't look like that at all. it probably wasn't dry when you put the wax on. walk us through step by step what you did.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brraaapp
What are you drying it with?? When your wiping it down you might be creating streaks. Buy a schammy when it starts streaking ring it out and then keep on going. If thats not the case then sorry for wasting your time.
Shammy's are okay as far ass how good they do the job of drying, but not too good if your trying to minimize scratches. like 2-3 microfiber towels or clothes is what i always use. one to soak up most of water usually leaves small streaks and then go back with the second dry cloth to get it dry( add another dry cloth if needed) Shammy's don't have any where for the little dirt to hide or be recessed to, where microfibers do. hence they drag the dirt around causing more scratches. Yes you just washed your car and it should be squeeky clean so no need to worry bout dirt, right?
but there is still chance for some dirt to be on the surface or in the water. Thats just what i've been taught to believe and its a logical theory so i use the extra procaution.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Washed.
Dried.
(Washed mom's car...)
Freaked out.
Sprayed down car, and dried again.
Ran out of daylight, let car sit overnight in garage.
Waxed.
Used Invisible Glass on windows in attempt to clean.
Made thread.

haha.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitnith
Oh. heh. Guess I forgot to type everything...

I already waxed it, hoping it would get rid of it. Didn't work...

And pic added.
How many coats and what kinda wax? those are kinda nasty
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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1 coat Turtle Ice... I've used it before and it's been fine.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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You're going to need to clay bar, waxing is just going to throw a coating over the dirt...

And get a real wax, go with something in a can...
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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turtle ice is garbage. wash the car, dry the car GOOD, and if you're not going to claybar, wax the car immediately don't let it sit. pick up either meguirs or mothers wax, it's much better than the ice stuff.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
turtle ice is garbage. pick up either meguirs or mothers wax, it's much better than the ice stuff.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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I've been planning on getting some Meguires, but was going to use up the Ice stuff first. Looks like I'll just get the new stuff anyways.

Looks like I'll be spending tomorrow re-doing my car. bah.
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For water spots and road grime on the exterior of the windows, an old trick is to use a product called Barkeepers Friend. It is a cleanser but will not scratch like Comet or BonAmi. Just wet down the windshield and sprinklle some on half the window, take a sponge and just clean like your cleaning with a regular window cleaner. It will paste up a bit, just wipe it on and rinse it off. If you get that cruddy grime on the windshield from thrown up spray after driving in the rain, it works wonders.
After you get it clean you'll find that if you use the Stoners Invisible Glass Cleaner, on a regular basis, water will bead up and becomes a lot easier to clean after washing. As far as the body, you might try a product called Honda Polish and Cleaner. Available at any Honda Motorcycle dealer, comes in a spray can. Stuff works better than any detailer. Spray it on, let it sit for 20-30 seconda, and wipe it off, and buff. Leaves no residue, and wipes right off rubber and plastic. Most any biker in the know keeps a can in the saddlebags. Used it for years on my black Harley and now my black Goldwing. Probably work great on your black paint.
This is stuff I've been using for many years, and would not pass on if it didn' work. I may be a newbie here, but have been playing with and detailing my cars for over 40 years, and understand just how you guys feel bout your cars.
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