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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Wax..then claybar?

okay soo last week i washed my carr dried it and then waxed it..maybe i shouldnt of but im still learning on the car care thing..anway today i came across Mothers claybar kit..show shine cleaner wax and of corse the claybar..well i bought it and i decided that tomarrow me and my friend where gonna wash it clay bar it and what not pretty much a self detail job..is it alright to claybar it even though i just waxed it the other day?..i think its maybe been a week or two..not sure..think only a week..i dont wanna do this being a noob and ruin my paint and what not..so im just asking now..to be sure..
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:55 AM
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you claybar then wax...first wash it with dish soap then claybar then wax
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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okay so to like redo the whollee waxing thing to take off the original wax use dishsoap to wash it..then claybar and wax?..lol..
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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yup...
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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okay.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowBalt_06
you claybar then wax...first wash it with dish soap then claybar then wax
to use dish soap on a car isnt a good idea bro, if you noticed they dont tell you to do that newhere in the car cleaning industry it has to many harsh chemicals in it that will **** ur paint up just wash it claybar it seal it so forth look for the how to on here
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:25 AM
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to use dish soap on a car isnt a good idea bro, if you noticed they dont tell you to do that newhere in the car cleaning industry it has to many harsh chemicals in it that will **** ur paint up just wash it claybar it seal it so forth look for the how to on here
Hes right, i work at a car detail shop and you should never wash your car with dish soap unless you HAVE to get the wax off...even then you would need to re-claybar compound wax and polish to keep the paint heathy, So its pointless.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:27 AM
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Go to your local body shop supplier and get a gallon of GON. It will remove the wax and everything else on it without harming the clear like some dish soaps do. Its about 10-20 bucks. Wet one towel with it soaked then go back over it with a dry one. Then claybar with CAR WASH soap and water.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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i have purple power cleaner/de greaser would that take off the wax?..
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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i always wash my car with dish soap...i asked a body shop an they said there more harmful chemicals in spray on wax and car wash liquid that messes ur paint up more
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowBalt06
i always wash my car with dish soap...i asked a body shop an they said there more harmful chemicals in spray on wax and car wash liquid that messes ur paint up more

you dont know what your talking about... I dont know what car detail shop you went to but their totally wrong, go ask any reputable detailer thats why they dont go buy gallons of dish wash soap it has abrasives in it that are made to take off grime off pans and dishes not wax off paint... Now they do have some bad spray on waxes so forth but u dont see alot of people buyin them

go look up the how to by hatricksu on how to detail a car... I forgot the exact name of the product but it actually concentrates only on taking off wax properly not by guessing by using a dish wash soap.....
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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Don't use a degreaser. How the hell do you figure car was is worse than dish soap on your cars clear and paint?

I paint cars for a living and I have detailed and everything. The first thing you do to prep a surface to remove wax is use GON. Not dawn dish soap unless somebody poured cooking oil on your car.

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by methodman2424
Don't use a degreaser. How the hell do you figure car was is worse than dish soap on your cars clear and paint?

I paint cars for a living and I have detailed and everything. The first thing you do to prep a surface to remove wax is use GON. Not dawn dish soap unless somebody poured cooking oil on your car.
lol thank you someone who knows what their talking about haha... Ive learned from detailing my own cars after so many products bought I know how to clean a car with the best of them or pretty damn close.... I just hate doing the work
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by StageII07
i have purple power cleaner/de greaser would that take off the wax?..
No. Do NOT get that **** on paint.

It will stain the **** out of it. Trust me, I know from experience.. I tried washing my mom's cavalier in '96 with that ****.. epic fail

Tell you what.

Sign up on Autopia.org , and read up.. You'll learn a lot.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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or just go to autogeek.com and that will help you alot also
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Wash
Clay while its wet
Wash again
Dry
Wax
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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You could just claybar over the wax then rewax it..

I wouldnt bother trying to strip the wax, its a waste of time. Just make sure the surface is clean and go to town.

if your serious about detailing, vist www.autopia.org
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Can you imagine trying to keep a wet claybar on a newly waxed car?! Good luck, its hard enough when the car hasnt been waxed in a few months.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tr1p1ng
Can you imagine trying to keep a wet claybar on a newly waxed car?! Good luck, its hard enough when the car hasnt been waxed in a few months.
hmm.. i havnt had a problem.. Detail spray works fine.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Dishsoap wash, claybar, wash again, dry, cleaner wax, wax, sealer!
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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I could love to hear why you guys use Dishsoap, when you clay the car you actually remove all the wax.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Wax
I could love to hear why you guys use Dishsoap, when you clay the car you actually remove all the wax.

yah +1 rep for you haha... I forgot to mention that part haha i just wanted to make it clear to people that it was a really stupid idea to use dish soap haha
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Wax
I could love to hear why you guys use Dishsoap, when you clay the car you actually remove all the wax.
Totally agree here. Dish soap is not designed for washing cars with.

OP, check on one of Hatrickstu's threads, he knows his stuff. Oh and by the way, the claybar will lift off any residue wax, containments etc. I use the Turbo Wax Bug/Oxidation Block, it does the trick really well. http://www.turbowax.com/cat/bug-remover/
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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wait wait wait... hold up guys...!

So your going to sit there and tell me that. dishsoap isn't made to wash automobiles?!?!?!?!
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Many people like to use Dishsoap to strip all the wax from the surface, even some well known Pro detailer use that system, the main reason is that Dishsoap has high detergent levels, however they are not different from the 1 Gallon car shampoo that you can purchase at your local store for $2.99, a common characteristic of the lesser cost products in the market is the unusually high content of solvents in the product, through prolonged use of products like these will cause the paint to deteriorate and become dull on the surface. Then after a while you will hear, that the surface is so dull, I guess it needs to be buffed out.

If you use a clay bar system which is used to remove some surface contaminants such as over spray, rail dust, some fallout, etc. why do you need dishsoap ? there's better products outthere that you can use, you can also presoak the car with degreasers.

you can use clay bar, oxidation block, degreasers, even low quality car shampoos, as you can see there's no need for Dishsoap, regarless of what anyone thinks.
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