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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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So, just a quick question.. Been wondering it for awhile now..

WHY THE **** IS THIS WEBSITE SO GODDAMN SLOW

Honestly. I'm sure there's some kind of reason behind it, but I'd just like to know why. I mean, honestly. I go to click on a link to the next page or something, and I can seriously go make a sandwich or something. It MAY be up by then.. Perhaps go to the bathroom? I'd just like to know what's up.. It seems like there's a billion premium members.. So shouldn't we have a forum that's at least usable..?

Not trying to get on anyone's ****, just trying to figure it out..

Thanks.. lol
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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i believe the mods have said previously that the advertising and premium memberships barely pay for the bandwidth we use.. thats not counting the money vendors pay though

i think theres a lot of missing money here, but good luck ever finding it
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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i could run this **** on my desktop and it would be smoother
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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i could run this **** on my desktop and it would be smoother
eh you say that, but your internet connection would not be able to support the bandwidth needed for all the users, esp during "rush hour" on here

that aside, we really need a new hosting provider, or a higher package with more processing power and bandwidth... ive ran several websites, even owned a company that created/managed websites, and I can tell the amount of money the website takes in vs what they pay for hosting fees is not even..
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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again. . . . it would still be a better experience
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Ok, so let's see.. Lemme make this post now.. I'll click post.. And..

Damn, I could really go for a sandwich.. Luckily i have some time before the page reloads..
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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What king of internet connection do u have whiteboy? i have cable and it never takes more than 15 secs to go somewhere. Some times the site will be down.....but other than that I don't have much of a problem with speed.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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What king of internet connection do u have whiteboy? i have cable and it never takes more than 15 secs to go somewhere. Some times the site will be down.....but other than that I don't have much of a problem with speed.
on a t3 at work, and a 25/1 cable connection at home. his speed has nothing to do with the slowness, lag, or downtime of the site
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Yes, I have a FIOS connection with an N router. lol. It's the site. It's like that on my computer, on my phone, on my school computer.. It's the site..
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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It is the server... but there is nothing anyone can do except the admin.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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so lets tlk to the admin and see if he will get us on a better server. if money is an issue im sure there are some people on here that would throw down 5 bucks or so.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GM>urpos
so lets tlk to the admin and see if he will get us on a better server. if money is an issue im sure there are some people on here that would throw down 5 bucks or so.
...Good luck with that
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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No, I know there's nothing I can do aside from him, I was just curious onto the actual issue.. lol
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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...Good luck with that
haha.. i guess hes a hard person to get ahold of?
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Did some calculations.....

We have 45441 members total.

After searching 50 pages of 100 members(5000 members), I found 29 premium members.

Now we crunch the numbers.



45441 / 5000 = 9.0882

9.0882 * 29 = 263.5578

263.5578 * 9.99 = 2632.942422

That's $2,632.94 worth of money from premium memberships when averaged out based on a 5000 member count per year.



Now I looked at a good web hosting company, godaddy.com.

There unlimited webhosting plan, with unlimited databases, unlimited web space and unlimited bandwidth, is $9.74 a month when signing a 36 month contract.

9.74 * 12 = 116.88

So in one year, it would cost $116.88 in web hosting cost, including bandwidth.



2632.94 - 116.88 = 2516.06

So there is $2,516.06 of unaccounted for money in this scenario.



So this also does not account for vendor supported funds.

This site should not be struggling by any means.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Did some calculations.....

We have 45441 members total.

After searching 50 pages of 100 members(5000 members), I found 29 premium members.

Now we crunch the numbers.



45441 / 5000 = 9.0882

9.0882 * 29 = 263.5578

263.5578 * 9.99 = 2632.942422

That's $2,632.94 worth of money from premium memberships when averaged out based on a 5000 member count per year.



Now I looked at a good web hosting company, godaddy.com.

There unlimited webhosting plan, with unlimited databases, unlimited web space and unlimited bandwidth, is $9.74 a month when signing a 36 month contract.

9.74 * 12 = 116.88

So in one year, it would cost $116.88 in web hosting cost, including bandwidth.



2632.94 - 116.88 = 2516.06

So there is $2,516.06 of unaccounted for money in this scenario.



So this also does not account for vendor supported funds.

This site should not be struggling by any means.
damn dave, thats pretty impressive. i would guess though that nobody IS a premium member because of the problems still plagueing the site and its clear its never going to be resolved. it sucks but hey, thats life..
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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damn dave, thats pretty impressive. i would guess though that nobody IS a premium member because of the problems still plagueing the site and its clear its never going to be resolved. it sucks but hey, thats life..
This could all be fixed, but the problem is we have an admin that is to lazy to solve some simple issues.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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It seems like there used to be many more premium members before this last set ran out a few days back..
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
This could all be fixed, but the problem is we have an admin that is to lazy to solve some simple issues.
i agree... that and/or possibly money hungry? sounds like the place i work for...
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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slowswap I thought you knew more than that... GoDaddy's "unlimited" plan isn't going to cut it. You'll be on a shared server, not dedicated, which means your site will compete for server resources.

Fine print: "Plan provides unlimited storage and bandwidth; storage subject to availability of space on a single clustered server and subject to the Terms of Service in your Hosting Subscriber Agreement. Limitations apply to other plan features."

There would be no such thing as dedicated servers if you could spend $15.00 a month and have it support a site like this. Now go look at there Dedicated Sever prices: http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hostin...play=dedicated, and even more if you want an "Assisted Service Plan".

I'm not saying that the Admin can't afford to improve the site or it's servers, but it's not as cheap as you think to support a site this sized.

Also, FWIW just because we have "48,073" members, doesn't mean they are all active. In fact if you look only ~19520 users have logged into the site in the past 365 days. (Premium memberships only last 1 year) (Page 488*40 users/page) so using your own calculations of 29 premiums per 5000 users

19520/5000 = 3.904

3.904 * 29 = 113.216

113.216 * 9.99 = $1131.02/year

Now, lets take GoDaddy's cheapest Dedicated Server plan $71.99/month(if you buy a year at a time) * 12 = $863.88/yr

$1131.02(prem. dues) - $863.88 = $267.14 profit, assuming he has the cheapest GD dedicated plan.

Now for ***** lets look at the an "Assisted" Dedicated Plan.

$239.97/mo * 12 = $2879.64/yr - $1131.02/year in premium dues = $1748.62 out of pocket cost per year.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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The vendor fee's are pretty substantial iirc, and they're monthly right?

I don't know much about this, but i do agree the server blows.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
The vendor fee's are pretty substantial iirc, and they're monthly right?

I don't know much about this, but i do agree the server blows.
I'm not saying he doesn't make enough to fix it or have it fixed, I'm just saying that the $15 plan isn't the proper scenario for the hosting used on this site. And he's not making hand over fist on the premiums like slowswap made it appear.
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