supercharger or turbocharger? that is the question
09-08-2009, 09:54 AM
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ok ok i think im going to go with turbo but i wounder how hard it would be to do both. I wounder the mods i wouls have to do for that?
09-08-2009, 01:46 PM
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you going to redo the internals first? i think its around 2.5 k to redo them, and if you are going to skip that step get ready to paya lot more when your engine blows
09-08-2009, 01:52 PM
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2500 bucks for internals? 
all he needs is pistons and rods. hes not pushing 300+ HP
turbo system with rods and pistonsshould b about 250-280 or so HP.
might need a new clutch tho if ur manual
all he needs is pistons and rods. hes not pushing 300+ HP
turbo system with rods and pistonsshould b about 250-280 or so HP.
might need a new clutch tho if ur manual
09-08-2009, 01:53 PM
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the reason i went with a supercharger is because you can throw a 2.8" pulley on it and get 16 lbs of boost and still be safe you can still do that with a turbo, but in past history here on css, 2.2 guys with turbos have done engine builds...some even after their engines blew lol.
i've got some major plans for my car and that is why i'm getting rid of my kit.
i want power yields in the 380-400 so i will be doing a lot and eventually going to use a turbo.
but if you're not gonna build the engine right now you might as well sc.
you get instant boost no matter what rpm, and a turbo will take time to spool.
if you want lots of power go to turbo, if you're happy with 250-280 hp go with a supercharger.
also keep in mind a turbo requires oil lines to be tapped into engine, or oil pan.
then possibly a coolant line taped into the radiator lines that cycle that coolant.
you also have to route all the piping with proper t clamps or you will have plenty of boost leaks, and engine shutting off.
you will also have to get a new downpipe made for the o2 housing of the turbo.
a supercharger will just bolt on, and after a tune with trifecta go.
09-08-2009, 01:57 PM
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http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dcategory=5616
- rods 339
http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dcategory=5616 -pistons 500
http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dcategory=5615
-clutch 434
plus install.
if you're going to spend all the money gettin someone to tear apart your engine and do it for you....why just to rods, and pistons?
why not do valves, sleeves, gaskets, etc.
do it all.
but anyways, theres a lot that can be done just need mullah
it may not be 2500 for engine parts.
but you're looking at 1200 in parts if you're really looking to get between 250-300 and be on the safe side with an engine build.
my clutch and flywheel install costed me 450.
i don't know what an engine build would cost but i'm sure it'd be over 500-600.
easily close to 2000+
09-08-2009, 02:06 PM
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very true, i may sound biased...but its the truth.
the reason i went with a supercharger is because you can throw a 2.8" pulley on it and get 16 lbs of boost and still be safe you can still do that with a turbo, but in past history here on css, 2.2 guys with turbos have done engine builds...some even after their engines blew lol.
i've got some major plans for my car and that is why i'm getting rid of my kit.
i want power yields in the 380-400 so i will be doing a lot and eventually going to use a turbo.
but if you're not gonna build the engine right now you might as well sc.
you get instant boost no matter what rpm, and a turbo will take time to spool.
if you want lots of power go to turbo, if you're happy with 250-280 hp go with a supercharger.
also keep in mind a turbo requires oil lines to be tapped into engine, or oil pan.
then possibly a coolant line taped into the radiator lines that cycle that coolant.
a supercharger will just bolt on, and after a tune with trifecta go.
the reason i went with a supercharger is because you can throw a 2.8" pulley on it and get 16 lbs of boost and still be safe you can still do that with a turbo, but in past history here on css, 2.2 guys with turbos have done engine builds...some even after their engines blew lol.
i've got some major plans for my car and that is why i'm getting rid of my kit.
i want power yields in the 380-400 so i will be doing a lot and eventually going to use a turbo.
but if you're not gonna build the engine right now you might as well sc.
you get instant boost no matter what rpm, and a turbo will take time to spool.
if you want lots of power go to turbo, if you're happy with 250-280 hp go with a supercharger.
also keep in mind a turbo requires oil lines to be tapped into engine, or oil pan.
then possibly a coolant line taped into the radiator lines that cycle that coolant.
a supercharger will just bolt on, and after a tune with trifecta go.
JMHO considering what I have read.
09-08-2009, 02:14 PM
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very true, i may sound biased...but its the truth.
the reason i went with a supercharger is because you can throw a 2.8" pulley on it and get 16 lbs of boost and still be safe you can still do that with a turbo, but in past history here on css, 2.2 guys with turbos have done engine builds...some even after their engines blew lol.
i've got some major plans for my car and that is why i'm getting rid of my kit.
i want power yields in the 380-400 so i will be doing a lot and eventually going to use a turbo.
but if you're not gonna build the engine right now you might as well sc.
you get instant boost no matter what rpm, and a turbo will take time to spool.
if you want lots of power go to turbo, if you're happy with 250-280 hp go with a supercharger.
also keep in mind a turbo requires oil lines to be tapped into engine, or oil pan.
then possibly a coolant line taped into the radiator lines that cycle that coolant.
you also have to route all the piping with proper t clamps or you will have plenty of boost leaks, and engine shutting off.
you will also have to get a new downpipe made for the o2 housing of the turbo.
a supercharger will just bolt on, and after a tune with trifecta go.
the reason i went with a supercharger is because you can throw a 2.8" pulley on it and get 16 lbs of boost and still be safe you can still do that with a turbo, but in past history here on css, 2.2 guys with turbos have done engine builds...some even after their engines blew lol.
i've got some major plans for my car and that is why i'm getting rid of my kit.
i want power yields in the 380-400 so i will be doing a lot and eventually going to use a turbo.
but if you're not gonna build the engine right now you might as well sc.
you get instant boost no matter what rpm, and a turbo will take time to spool.
if you want lots of power go to turbo, if you're happy with 250-280 hp go with a supercharger.
also keep in mind a turbo requires oil lines to be tapped into engine, or oil pan.
then possibly a coolant line taped into the radiator lines that cycle that coolant.
you also have to route all the piping with proper t clamps or you will have plenty of boost leaks, and engine shutting off.
you will also have to get a new downpipe made for the o2 housing of the turbo.
a supercharger will just bolt on, and after a tune with trifecta go.
09-08-2009, 02:20 PM
#20
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Which thread is that?
http://aerocharger.com/kits_pontiac_g8.php
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...unt-turbo.html
I pass that along to the pro Cobalt racers.
http://aerocharger.com/kits_pontiac_g8.php
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...unt-turbo.html
I pass that along to the pro Cobalt racers.
Last edited by buellfooll; 09-08-2009 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
09-08-2009, 02:25 PM
#21
Which thread is that?
http://aerocharger.com/kits_pontiac_g8.php
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...unt-turbo.html
I pass that along to the pro Cobalt racers.
http://aerocharger.com/kits_pontiac_g8.php
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...unt-turbo.html
I pass that along to the pro Cobalt racers.
*******. hehehehe
09-08-2009, 02:41 PM
#23
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Why am I an ass hole? Just because you're not intelligent to understand it?
Copy and paste then scroll down to the G8. If I'm an ass hole you MUST be a dick head you ******* brain dead **** ant.
http://aerocharger.com/videos.php
Copy and paste then scroll down to the G8. If I'm an ass hole you MUST be a dick head you ******* brain dead **** ant.
http://aerocharger.com/videos.php
Last edited by buellfooll; 09-08-2009 at 02:41 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
09-08-2009, 02:48 PM
#25
again, when looking at price for price and engine for engine
i think the op wants to go for cheapest.
building an engine, isn't cheap.
i like both sc and turbo.
i currently have a supercharger, but am selling it cause i have some major plans and i will be using a hanh 20g or gt30r.
and your stock k04 was designed to have minimal lag, thats how chevy designed it.
aftermarket kits are not usually the same.
regardless you still have lag, and sc is instant.
no arguing around that.
theres not point in arguing which is better they are both great.
just giving op insights to both sides, and let him make up his mind.
i think the op wants to go for cheapest.
building an engine, isn't cheap.
i like both sc and turbo.
i currently have a supercharger, but am selling it cause i have some major plans and i will be using a hanh 20g or gt30r.
and your stock k04 was designed to have minimal lag, thats how chevy designed it.
aftermarket kits are not usually the same.
regardless you still have lag, and sc is instant.
no arguing around that.
theres not point in arguing which is better they are both great.
just giving op insights to both sides, and let him make up his mind.