I overheard someone talking about a kit from them for our ss/sc and the 2.4ss....is this true? Do they have like a 700 dollar front kit upgrade for us? I have not been able to find anything about it...thanks for the help.



Mike

 

if you download the RKsport catalog it has the baer brake kit for the front for like $900 for calipers and 13in rotors and like $1300 for the rear with calipers and also 13in rotors...i know this beacuse i am a huge Baer brake fan and have had them on all my cars...

its not listed on the website so you have to download the catalog..but i know for a fact its in there...so far its the only place i know of that sells them but there could be someone else who does...idk

 

so why do they just sell the calipers for 900? You can't just run those....right? You have to accomodate with the 13" rotors I thought....could I pester you for a url link? I just want to make sure that I get the right thing....is this catalog on their page? Thanks for the AWESOME INFORMATION!!!!!!!!! You scored some major cool points in my book.


Oh, and lastly, how many pistons is it? Thanks

 

read closely. front calipers AND 13" rotors.

"...baer brake kit for the front for like $900 for calipers and 13in rotors and like $1300 for the..."

 

Thanks, I can't believe that I skipped over that! I am usually the one to point that out to others. Thanks sir for not being a jackass about it too.


I am definately saving up for the front kit now! Just need to find and download the catalog....is there a way that I can purchase a paper copy of it...like to have books more...

 

ive seen these somewhere else as well

some fender on this site haves them just search

 

cool, will do when I get out of class. Great info.

 

heres the link:

http://rksport.com/main/catalog-request.asp

you can either download the catalog for free(in full color with pictures) or order a catalog with a tee shirt for $10. but if you order somthing they take $10 off your first purchase, so its basicly free and you get a shrit!

 

Gravana does also have these on there site as well and there are 2 diffierent kits also.

 

Gravana's site has Bear brakes and I thnk they also have willwood or something like that idk>>>

 

Man, you guys are really great! Thanks a million, will order it right now!

 

i wish i had pockets big enough to just order brakes like that. dang.

 

just ordered....and I didn't order the brakes, ordered the catalog and complimentary t-shirt.

 

I am not sure what upgrading to 13" rotors in the rear will do for us other than slow us down due to excessive weight and rotating mass. I hope everyone realizes that the rear brakes do approximately 20-25% of the braking of the car...upgrading them is virtually useless (hence why JBP and others only offers a front big brake kit) and a big waste of $$$ IMHO. An upgraded stock size rotor, better pads, and maybe some SS lines is all you need for the rear.

Also, upgrading the front to a larger rotor and bigger calipers will give you diminishing returns...unless it weighs less than stock or only slightly more than stock (paired with lighter wheels and tires). People need to realize if you increase the rotating mass by adding bigger brakes, you must reduce it elsewhere by lighter wheels/tires. Otherwise your net result is that you are slowing the car down and REDUCING THE PERFORMANCE.

Baer brakes are one of the heaviest setups in the industry and, for the price, are subpar in quality and features. You are paying for a name mostly....For the front, you could probably get a Corvette C5 caliper and bracket, with a 13" rotor, and fabricate(or have one fabricated) an adapter for the caliper bracket and have the exact same results for $500-$600. Keep in mind, the Baer caliper is a PBR heavy duty caliper (the same used in the C5 Corvette stock).

I know who manufacturers the JBP kit and that is a first rate setup, much better than the Baer setup and lighter too (thanks to a 2-piece rotor). If you must have big brakes, look into another manufacturer besides Baer.

But, take a page from the Time Attack Cobalt book, and upgrade the rotors and add better pads and SS lines and call it a day. If our stock configuration is good enough for a race car, don't you think it is good enough for us?

 

Nope...it isn't good enough for me. And I am leaving the rear stock. And also, the time attack car does not reach speeds of over 155. When you go that fast, you seriously need to upgrade because the stockers just don't suffice. A one piston setup can only do so much. You are absolutely correct when you mention the mass of the rotors compared to the original ones, but the bottom line is, just make more powe,r if you are worried about being slow...lastly, most of the big power seekers on here are going to, if not already, make MUCH more power than the 280 that the Time Attack one makes. (I believe that it is somewhere around there.)

and I really do not wish to "fabricate" or have it done by some shop on my BRAND NEW CAR. I want this one done correctly, and not half ass. If it bolts right up, then it shall be done. Plus, I can always go and do the C5 caliper in the future if I do so desire...it just more money....just work a few more hours, and I am 18....I have many years left. But great advice for the newer members who subscribe to the theory of, "Bigger is better." keep up the very informative posts man, great job.

 

The bigger kits are pretty much just for looks. I don't even want to know why you need your breaks to support a 155 mph cobalt. Upgraded pads and rotors will do the trick. If you want to do more than that the next step would be to upgrade the brake booster set up not the rotors. You will need more clamping ability to take full advantage of the bigger rotors.

 

Well to tell you the truth. the only reason i use baer is because they look badass. Nothing looks better when you have an 18" rim and a large 13" rotor and calipers with the baer logo. its an expensive price to pay, however, you dont see people driving around everyday with baer brakes. a lot of people have have brembo and what not, but i like to have what other people dont. heavy or not i dont really care. im not trying to win any prizes for having the fastest or lightest cobalt on the planet. I care about both performance and looks but im willing to sacrifice a little braking performance to make the brakes look complete and completely badass. imho

matt

 

yeah, but like I said, the stockers can only do so much. The whole idea behind bigger brakes is to get more torque on stopping the wheels by moving the calipers further away from the center axis of the axle. Also, with a larger surface area to contact the rotors and two pistons, the load is distributed more evenly. So, these will totally out-perform any setup that can be created by the stock ones.

 

True they will out perform a "BONE STOCK" set up, but they WILL NOT out perform a modified setup with stock size rotor. ie better rotors, better pads, better booster, and possibly better caliper. In theory it does seem to out perform, but you must also think about the extra clamping power these will need to perform ideally. I am not trying to talk anyone out of getting them, I am just putting this out there for the people that believe the big break kit is the only way to go for better brakes. Yes it will look WAAAAAAY better than a stock set up, but there are plenty of people that rather make more power to be more powerful not to compensate for an over sized over priced break set up.

 

ok, when you bring in an aftermarket booster and master cylinder and caliper, then do the same for the big brake one, except for the calipers, and see what results you get....a one piston can only do so much man. plus, look at the physics behind the design of the bigger brakes. the farther you get away from the center axis of the axle the more leverage/torque you get to make them stop. So, no rotor/pad setup on a stock application shall ever come near the larger set.


but for modest mods, you do not need the bigger brakes. only for fast ass speeds and gobs of power, so, if you are power hungry and crazy like myself.