looking for opinions on coil overs. looking for caster camber plates on them

 

stance for right now but they could use better rear spring rates.......none really come close in comparison with the exception on anze, penske ohlins which will blow stance clear out of the water.

 

Read up on the BC Coilovers offered for us. I've been running them for a bit over 2 years now.

according to BC's website & MRZPERFORMANCE.com

spring rates
front: 8k / rear: 6k

32 way dampening on all four corners

Pillowball mounts

camber plates

Up to 3" drop

Picked them up for 999.99 at the time; I'm sure they're cheaper now.

Megan I believe offers a similar setup now as well for 799.99.
Just read up on the spring rates...

Ultimately it's gonna come down to how stiff you want your ride to be (i.e.: spring rates), dampening adjust-ability, and price.

Which works best for you?

There isn't a single coilover out for us that offers a stiffer rear spring rate than the front springs.

On the other hand though...
The manufactures usually offer stiffer rear springs that can be purchased at a minimal cost separately for those who are not satisfied w/ entry level.

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This should help you a little...

kg/mm to lbs/in
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16 = 896
15 = 840
14 = 784
13 = 728
12 = 672
11 = 616
10 = 560
9.0 = 504
8.5 = 476
8.0 = 448
7.5 = 420
7.0 = 392
6.5 = 364
6.0 = 336
5.5 = 308
5.0 = 280
4.5 = 252
4.0 = 224
3.0 = 168
2.0 = 112

 

Stance if you must go with coilovers. But i believe as Boosted said, stiffer rear springs are recommended.

 

stance coilovers you are able to get different spring rates....they are a 20 minute drive fromme believe me i know.

 

rear should be around 9/10 i believe. Not totally sure, but that would be the best balance. And remember, these are progressive rate springs, so the number doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

All the c/o's are progressive? I thought Stance,KW, and B&G were linear?

 

Stance is progressive rates now. They were linear in the front, but switched. Progressive front will give a much nicer ride.

Stance is the best coilover without blowing some serious cash.

 

Gay, I dont care about ride, I care about twisties

 

twisties FTW!

*** coilovers and just get pedders springs with LNF struts n shocks.

 

Trust me, Stance is where it's at for those. I've been riding in the first Stance Cobalt for over a year now. It's the best handling car I've been. Dare I say it's handled better then a 240 with Stance coilovers, I think so.

Stance was designed for the drifting community who needed a coilover that could stand up to the abuse. If it can help control a drift car, it can help control any car in twisties.

A good set of tires will help a lot.

I don't think there's a sway bar combination that can make up for the weaker spring rates when compared to a coilover setup.

 

OTTP Hardcore rear sway bar...It's the one from the Time Attack Cobalt

 

megan in my opinion just because i like the spring rate, 6kg front and rear.

 

Okay think about this. Stance coilovers with Hardcore bar will not be touched with Pedders and Hardcore bar.

 

I have been talking to a vender on here about them, depending on my monitary situation in a month or so I am hoping on getting them.

Tires, I dont have to worry, I have 225/45/17 Hankook RS2's on the front and 245/45/17 Hankook Ventus evos on the back. Plenty of stick as long as I dont hit gravel.

 

Weaker how? Most of those who build and track these cars are running TC struts and Pedders springs.

 

:facepalm: no, it is designed by the ,an who made the TA car. As far as I know I'm the only non dedicated race car to have a time attack beam.

The pedders rates are actually very good, and with the ott bar dial in a bit of oversteer on street tires. Neutral on slicks.

Drift cars have very soft rear suspension to allow for a smooth transition into tire wasting silliness.

 

almost 100% right....LS1fbody you have the original time attack adjustable corner wt twisting beam beam v.1 devised and built by Devon for the tv street tuner challenge at button willow July 05 ;Northvibe has add-on hardcore bar with non adjustable twisting beam v.2 like was made for the november 05 time attack at buttonwillow.No street car currently has a spherical pivot twb like LS1fbody...for now.....

 

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your smilies are awesome....

 

WHAT ABOUT BC's?!?!?!?!??!

 

The rear hardcore bar plus Konis will have a better positive impact than a set of coilovers. Sadly, almost all the coilovers offered for the Cobalt have pretty crappy valving. I was reminded of this as I rode around in a student's STI on track. Pedders are okay, but I don't like them as much as everyone else does.

For a daily driven car? Konis, Pedders, and the hardcore bar are pretty much unbeatable. You'll compromise your ride a bunch with all the crappy Cobalt coilover options (KW excluded, which uses Koni rears). The other coilover options limit the amount of droop and bump severly. Less available travel means those bumps are going to be even harsher. Combine that with the poor valving characteristics. I vote don't do it.

And no, the car doesn't oversteer like crazy or anything. Has never once stepped out on the street. You really have to TRY to make it oversteer.

 

what about lnf shocks with pedders springs
how low will that take me though i want to be no more than like an inch and half over the tires

 

you wouldnt be more wrong. i just sold the stances because of how crap they are for track use....good street coilover though

thats your best bet then. cheaper too

 

this aswell...theres only one solution to the coilover issue IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM..... get custom ones. anze, ohlins, penske, stance will make custom ones MAYBE but meh they arent great,