Hey guys,

I was considering doing the t/c Brembo conversion since I heard it was mainly bolt-on (just costly) to the SS models.. However, in the Summit catalog, there are Wilwood calipers.. They seems to be about half the cost at 125 each.. They list 3 kinds.. Do any of them work with the existing rotor size? If not, do they work with larger calipers like would be done with the t/c conversion? Brembo or Wilwood? I'd like some options here.. Any links or other info would be awesome..

Thanks guys!!

 

I'm also wonder the same thing?

 

not bolt on, the willwood kit was on here at a special price of 700 or something thats a good deal hard to do cheaper you get what you pay for the t/c brembo would be best

 

Wilwood offers several very reasonably priced calipers. NONE of them bolt on to the Cobalt. The Cobalt uses a ~125mm(4.92") bolt spread on the caliper mount at the knuckle. Wilwood calipers come in 3.0", 5.25" and 6.0" mount spacings. So no matter what caliper you chose you need a custom bracket.

Depending on the calper you chose you may not be able to use the stock rotors, even with a bracket, certain calipers just cant be (safely) made to mount in the proper position to use the sock rotors, so now you need 2 piece rotors, expect to spend AT LEAST $80 each for rotors(youll need Wilwood ULHPs at minimum) and then another $125-$160 per side for rotor hats(which may need additional machining depednding on your setup) And of course another $30 for rotor hardware. After which you STILL dont have brake pads or lines.....

If you like the Wilwoods contact Todd at TCE Performance.

If you want a more durable, truly street worthy high performance front brake upgrade, go with the Brembos. Youre looking at $800 either way, only plus I see to the Wilwood/TCE kit is it fits in more wheels, but thats not an insignificant thing.

 

I was leaning more towards the Brembo's anyway.. I just wanted to see if there was a cheaper alternative..

Could you do me a favor and list every part necessary for the t/c swap onto an SS chassis? Do you need to modify the rears or do they stay as-is? I plan on going full t/c front set-up, then getting Red Stuffs for the back with new OEM style rotors and braided lines all throughout.. New fluid too.. After all that, this car should stop on a damn dime..

I've driven cars with 4 pistons before and I love it.. It just seems to stop so solid.. No mushy-ness at all.. All SRT-8 cars / Cherokee, Corvette, 350Z/G35 with Brembo package, etc. They're just fantastic..

Would you be best ordering the t/c setup off of CED? Or elsewhere..?

 

Nope not for a similarly sized rotor/4 piston upgrqade

No, sorry its out there SEARCH>ADVANCED SEARCH> MEMEBER NAME= MAVEN> SEARCH WORD= PIN KIT > DISPLAY=POSTS it should come right up, 1st or 2nd post

Nope, no need to modify anything. Sounds like a decent plan you might want to think about GreenStuff for the rears simply because the rear brakes on the Balt tend not to get to hot on the street so theres not really much benefit but getting a higher temp pad, unless youre really concerned about dust, the Greens might actually be a better choice for the street.

You can have a no "mushy-ness" brake system on your car without springing for the Brembos... Good rotors(clean unrusted stock, virtually any non drilled rotor, big name rotors), good pads, Goodridge brake hoses, fresh fluid and a good bleed are all you need to completely change the way your brakes feel from worn stock(or even new stock)

Whoever you like/can get the best price.

 

talk to Josh at OTTP there are ways of making the price better. Hey Maven, I am off to get the TC Calipers and paint them, and do the conversion...can you measure up a TC rotor for me OD and inset from hub flange? If it is easy save me the trouble email will work

 

Has anyone actually DONE this conversion yet..? By the time I will, I'm sure someone else will.. It'll be in the spring or so..

 

Well theres a kid somewhere in Cumberland county, NJ with a yellow car, and the parts necessary tp do the swap(besides pads), no idea if hes done it yet or not, havent seen him since I sold him my kit.

 

He a member..?

 

I dont think so, I dont think he's even legal

 

hahaha

So are the parts listed the ONLY things you need for this swap?? Is the swap basically a "direct bolt-on" with the correct parts? How much larger is the caliper than the stockers? I upgraded from the 17' SS rims to some 18 inch Enkei FN-18's.. Will they work? They have +42 offset and they seem to have a good bit of space between the current caliper and the spokes.. I might get some stock SS 18's next though.. Do those work? I don't want to buy the stuff and them not fit..

 

The calipers are significantly larger than stock.

I have absolutely ZERO idea if the Enkeis will fit. Stock SS/2.4 wheels fit with a 3mm spacer.

Yes its a 100% bolt on swap on 4whl disc cars, no more difficult than replacing stock parts.

 

Of course. I HAD SS 2.4 wheels. lol Maybe Ill post up in the t/c section seeing what other wheels have been used on them before.. Otherwise, I know two guys with t/cs.. I could try to just put my wheels on his.. How much are spacers? Even if they didn't fit as is, could I just slide those on and voila? lol

 

"slide those on and voila? " wtf, you get lessons from a french hooker? your plan is good, spacers are dangerous, but done right and screwed into the wheel flange, or the rotor they could be ok, maximum of say 3/16 you need the hub flange to stand proud for hub centric wheels...

 

So in other words, I can use these wheels, but at max I'll need to buy a set of spacers..?

 

well you will trial fit and find out i really cant tell you you are in the best position to figure it out. Take some washers to put behind three studs to see what sort of spacing you need when you trial fit your wheels...then measure and go from there but you must have hub engagement wheel to hub...and I am guessing 3/16 is as much as you can space out...try it and see good luck

 

Alrighty, so I tried to search online, but I'm not finding anyone listing the Brembo's for sale online.. Tried CED, with no avail.. Anyone else I should try, or just go directly to the dealer? Do you think it'll be like $800 to buy the calipers, rotors, mounting bolts, hoses, and banjo bolts necessary for the swap? A friend of mine who is a mechanic said he'd do it if I got the parts.. I'm trying to figure out how much I need to save to go buy the parts.. I'm guessing the mounting bolts, hoses, and banjo bolts are specific to the conversion? Not a universal piece? Obviously the calipers and rotors are.. I'm just gonna try to put one of my wheels onto PimpLays car maybe to see if it works.. If not directly, a spacer should to the trick.. Should you run spacers all around or just on the front? Not sure on FWD cars.. Also, could you use any other OEM Brembo for the rear brake? Basically every other car with factory Brembos have them all around.. Hell, could you even use some kind of factory front calipers even to save some cash? I don't care if they're a little scuffed..

Like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...18#ht_1950wt_0

 

GMpartsdirect has them listed for like $180/each +shipping.

Yes you should be able to get it for under $800 without shipping.

No you shouldnt put a front caliper on the rear of the car. If you feel you must have a bigger brake setup for the rear you can get the TC rear brakes(again about $800) or you can get an 11.75" rear rotor and caliper relocation big brake kit from TCE for like $600.

 

so how much are TC front rotors where you are maven? and how come you havent piled on the wheel hop saga?

 

I get rotors for $85/ea

Whats the wheelhop saga? on this site or the other one?

NEVER MIND, I found it.... TTRs thread???

 

yes you did. Pwnd. Email pls gotta get rotors 500 a pair here thats too much and your price is better even with a 30 cent dollar

 

I didn't mean to put a front caliper on the back.. But notice how there are Brembos all around, but the rears are half the size? That's what I was referring to..

At this point, I think I'm just gonna beef up my stock brakes with braided lines, Green Stuffs, etc.. Use the left over cash to start collecting parts for a s/c conversion..

 

Is this a bolt on for SS/SC? No recalibration of the ABS system required?

 

Seems to be a direct bolt on as long as you buy the parts and have wheels that fit them..