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Old 12-18-2011, 08:54 PM
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better springs than sportlines

so i currently have sportlines for my ls. i like the drop but at times i hateee the ride heres the thing i was also wondering if coil overs would be more worth it.because i want a better ride than sportlines and can go lower during the spring and summer and raise it in winter. any tad little bump i drive over its so harsh and it is anoying me.
i drive on a road to work EVERY day and looking at it, it looks clear of pot holes which it is but all the little imperfections i feel and its anoying.

so for springs what spring is better than sportlines with either the same or a tad less or more. not as low as B&G but yeah. and what coilovers are best for the money. not looking to stance the car just looking for a decent drop. not looking to remove and locking rings any anything crazy like the stanced fellas do just a decent drop and amazing ride quality.

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I think coil overs are your only option, pedders are a polular option and KW's are 2nd for what we offer.
Old 12-18-2011, 09:05 PM
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i saw someone selling coilovers on here for liek 550 shipped but cantt find the thread
Old 12-19-2011, 03:55 PM
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On one SS I have Pedders Xa, on the other one I have BC. The SS with the Pedders are way smoother than the one with the BC. Before, I had Sportlines and Konis, the handling was good but if you use the car for daily driving, they will break your car in 2 after a few months.
Old 12-19-2011, 06:18 PM
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yea my cars a daily with sportlines and fe5 shocks and struts
Old 12-19-2011, 06:39 PM
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so what is better to get?
Old 12-19-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt08LS
yea my cars a daily with sportlines and fe5 shocks and struts
Koni ARE better than the FE5... FE5 is good, dont get me wrong but the Koni are better.
Old 12-20-2011, 12:31 AM
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if you're looking for smoothness, Eibach and FE5, or if you want coils, Pedders Xa. TTR can give you a great deal on both like they did to me.
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Originally Posted by AyrtonSenna
if you're looking for smoothness, Eibach and FE5, or if you want coils, Pedders Xa. TTR can give you a great deal on both like they did to me.
you should read... i already have sportlines and Fe5 and am getting sick of the ride
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Originally Posted by Cobalt08LS
you should read... i already have sportlines and Fe5 and am getting sick of the ride
Then get the Pedders Xa from TTR, can't go wrong
Old 12-23-2011, 05:36 PM
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i want a decent drop too. what would those drop me?
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B&Gs are lower...any spring lower than sportlines is just a compromise to your ride quality though IMO. I love my Pedders
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its either drop or comfort/drivability, cant have both.
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Originally Posted by Omnigear
its either drop or comfort/drivability, cant have both.
^this

just go with coilovers
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yea i might have to.
i was told coilovers dont ride good either.
do SSC provide with the same drop as sportlines and better quality? if so i may either get those or go with coilovers
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Pedders are the best road spring, TC struts and shocks from CED the best bang for your buck. All the chiwanese coil overs are just that, and the ride is not great, damping is either ok or over/under damped depending where you set it, and most folks dont know how to adjust preload and simply slam the car to the ground so with no suspension travel, it does the ricer rock roll and pitch down the road.

Good luck wiith your choice, the smart money goes with pedders, tc front struts and koni rear shocks but koni rears are 268 compared to 99 bux. Pay your money and take your chances. Good luck.
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so than if i got pedderes wouldnt it raise my car a little? since i currently have FE5 and sportlines i have 15 inch rims in the winter and 18 in summer maby i should just get different springs with the same rating as sportlines (drop wise) because im putting a front lip on my car and i really dont want to tear it off i forgot that my wheel gap is more in winter bc i have 15 inch rims. i just want a better ride quality with the same drop as sportlines

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I would suggest that you can hardly tell the difference at the front Eibach to Pedders, but at the rear you will find the car trimming about .5 inch higher on Pedders. Not a big deal for me.

Pedders, two seasons old taken 2011


Eibachs, two seasons old, taken 2009

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oh wow its not even that different! i was thinking id loose lisk 1.5-1.8 inches all around. what size rims are those!? i really for some reason thought that it would raise my car ALOT if i switched from sportlines to pedders. because they advertise 1.5 front and 1.6 rear. but are those specs for a SS?
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And to answer your other question, the sway bars we produce change not only the torsional stiffness of the twisdting beam the way the bar is attached, it also changes the roll center at the rear. Without big technical bs about what that means theoretically practically it means that:
The car will turn in better as the rear is stiffer.
The car will respond better to power application exiting the corners as the rear bar helps plant both front wheels better.
The car will have better high speed stability and heavy brake application stability ( roll center )

The car will, if you yank the steering wheel too hard or do silly fast and furious lane changes, get loose at the rear.

To which I say, drive smooth.


and? get back on it...
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SWEEET! I WANT THAT BAR! so HOLDDDD IT!!!!!


so about these pedders on the ion you posted what size wheels are those? 17?

also since i already got the bumpstops cut to the sportline specs would i need new bumpstops if i got pedders or would they be fine how they are?


thats my car on sportlines with the summer rims. it seems as if the pedders would drop it a tad lower? or not?
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Originally Posted by Cobalt08LS
oh wow its not even that different! i was thinking id loose lisk 1.5-1.8 inches all around. what size rims are those!? i really for some reason thought that it would raise my car ALOT if i switched from sportlines to pedders. because they advertise 1.5 front and 1.6 rear. but are those specs for a SS?
good questions. The pedders the car is on 245 40 18 on 9.5 wide enkei pf01 rims. For the eibachs the car is on 235 40 18 (iirc) on 8.0 wide enkei emk3 rims

I am not sure who advertises what drop, I hate to state what the drop will be , its so dependent on proper install tires rims etc. The 245 fill the wheel well better than the 235 and the front suspension on the Redline requires a spring hat mod, and the Cobalt hat yeilds a bit and bends under load, and that trims the car a bit lower after a while from on track beating. But from where I sit the trim on both springs is not a lot different, the eibachs a little lower, the eibach ride is crap the spring performance is crap and the coil bind is crap.

so nothing much there for me to like lol. I even felt bad giving the eibach springs away...
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so than with a 225-40-18 tire will i look similar to that ion.
i just dont want to buy these springs and have my car be 1.5 inches higher in the front and 1.7-8 higher in the rear
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Originally Posted by Cobalt08LS
SWEEET! I WANT THAT BAR! so HOLDDDD IT!!!!!


so about these pedders on the ion you posted what size wheels are those? 17?

also since i already got the bumpstops cut to the sportline specs would i need new bumpstops if i got pedders or would they be fine how they are?


thats my car on sportlines with the summer rims. it seems as if the pedders would drop it a tad lower? or not?
nice clean car. I think Pedders you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. I would say get the CED strut shock pedders combo you will be a happy driver enjoying your car a whole lot more, for sure!. The ecotec n/a 2.2 is a great motor, I can spin the wheels anytime on my wntr btr 2.2 eco Cavvy and it gets great fuel mileage. But the darn top speed limiter is annoying, do u have one on your LS?
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PS Cutting the bump stops is 100% bogus should not be done, its in the eibach directions as it is a "one size fits all direction" If it was me I would go to a junk yard and get me some good uncut ones...


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