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CTCOBALTSSS 08-07-2006 09:24 AM

The Coilover Thread!
 
Here are all of the coilover set-ups for the Cobalt.

They are arranged most expensive to least expensive.

This will be updated as new coilovers come on to the market.


http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0871 $2,294.10

http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...DCP_0487_t.JPG

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=4844 $1,374.99

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...88_general.gif

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=4594 $1,229.95

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...16_general.jpg

http://www.gravanatuning.com/applica...avana_PRE_SALE $1,200

http://www.gravanatuning.com/prod_im...-1002-4001.jpg

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=4843 $1,079.99

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...99_general.gif

http://cobalt-addiction.com/handling.htm ( Click On Coilovers ) $979.99

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...over_large.jpg

http://www.hitachi-hap-la.com/Tokico...ks/app/6a.html (Coming Soon) $?,???.??

http://www.hitachi-hap-la.com/Tokico...products_3.gif

xspyder85x 08-07-2006 09:26 AM

nice you need prices for everything

CTCOBALTSSS 08-07-2006 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by xspyder85x
nice you need prices for everything

You got it.

I rearanged them most expensive to cheapest too.

xspyder85x 08-07-2006 09:42 AM

so whats different about them all? im new to coilovers

CTCOBALTSSS 08-07-2006 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by xspyder85x
so whats different about them all? im new to coilovers

I'm new to them too. I guess we just have to go to each link and read up on them.

Listerman 08-07-2006 10:14 AM

pretty much the more expensive they get the more adjustable they are.

IMHO the H&R coilovers are the best buy. very high quality product right there

nybull05 08-07-2006 10:28 AM

well i just bought the KW coilovers (variant 1) so when i get them in i'll let everyone know how they are. I had to do something my struts where totally shoot and i just had to replace one of my tires because of it.

CTCOBALTSSS 08-07-2006 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by nybull05
well i just bought the KW coilovers (variant 1) so when i get them in i'll let everyone know how they are. I had to do something my struts where totally shoot and i just had to replace one of my tires because of it.

Yeah let us know bro. I'm interested in how that works out.

xspyder85x 08-07-2006 12:31 PM

im waiting and anticipating

CTCOBALTSSS 08-07-2006 01:09 PM

I like the Cobalt Addiction Coilovers. They are the best price and the quality looks great. Anyone have those installed? Maybe Badg1rl?

player_1 08-08-2006 01:36 PM

I've got the J-body Performance Coil overs, and absolutely love them.
here's some info on the redesign, which hasn't been updated on his site yet:
Basically

uses Bilstein progressive dampener (special valving in the dampener adjusts stiffness automatically as you drive)
adjustable height
adjustable caster and camber

CTCOBALTSSS 08-08-2006 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by player_1
I've got the J-body Performance Coil overs, and absolutely love them.
here's some info on the redesign, which hasn't been updated on his site yet:
Basically

uses Bilstein progressive dampener (special valving in the dampener adjusts stiffness automatically as you drive)
adjustable height
adjustable caster and camber

That is good info to know. Thanks player_1. I like those a lot. Those just might have to be a future mod...

player_1 08-08-2006 02:02 PM

no prob, just so you know, of the coil overs above, the only ones actually available are the JBP and the KW.

I think the KW variant 2 is a good set with enough flexibility to make it a good set of coil overs. the JBP are more of an ultra high quality coil over, (max performance & comfort) which is why it's pricey.

as for the C.A. coils overs, I don't know.
that pic seems to be just a generic picture, because I just don't see how those would fit the rear.
I've asked several questions about them on other threads, I still have yet to receive any answers. oh well.

YellowLT 08-08-2006 02:07 PM

My friend has a Set Of Variant 2 KW Coil Overs on his Focus and they are amazing, BTW I just installed the SS S/C Suspension on my LT what a world of Difference and it only took about two hours total. The front there are three bolts on the strut and three on the strut tower, then the whole thing comes out. The back one bolt and then you wiggle the spring out, the One more bolt and the shock comes off. Easiest Suspension I have ever worked with.

YellowLT 08-08-2006 02:13 PM

More Options These are on the way
http://www.tokicogasshocks.com/products/dspec/

CTCOBALTSSS 08-09-2006 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by YellowLT
More Options These are on the way
http://www.tokicogasshocks.com/products/dspec/

I added them to the list. Any idea on price or when they will arive? Nice find BTW!

Eddie 08-10-2006 12:41 AM

the cobalt addiction coilovers look extremly similar to a B+G RS2 coilovers as they offer a 32way adjustable setup. they havnt updated the site w/ the cobalt buti believe its available. if the cobalt addiction are infact made by B+G, that is what i would get no doubt about it. i would go w/ the H&R or cobalt addiction (if they are made by B+G), if theyre not then i'd go w/ KW.

B+G are my number 1 choice.

victory_red_SS 08-10-2006 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by player_1
I've got the J-body Performance Coil overs, and absolutely love them.
here's some info on the redesign, which hasn't been updated on his site yet:
Basically

uses Bilstein progressive dampener (special valving in the dampener adjusts stiffness automatically as you drive)
adjustable height
adjustable caster and camber

So Ed, do you have the redesigned ones now? Mev is supposed to have a set ready for me when the engine comes home.

CTCOBALTSSS 08-11-2006 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
So Ed, do you have the redesigned ones now? Mev is supposed to have a set ready for me when the engine comes home.

Bump for an answer.....

YellowLT 08-11-2006 10:40 AM

Someone on Here has a set of Koni Adjustables installed on his 2.4

I found him look at the last Pic

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums//showthread.php?t=28573

Pieeater 08-13-2006 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
I'm new to them too. I guess we just have to go to each link and read up on them.

New to them as well. Does anyone know if coilovers will work without damaging the struts. Looking for a way to drop my car without having to cut my bumpstops, run the risk of busting a shock, and wear out my struts. I take it, these are direct replacements of stock shocks and that you still need lowering springs like the sportlines, or the H&R's? Thanks.

Pieeater 08-13-2006 09:53 PM

Not sure if this helps anyone. From the Koni website.

Q: I want to lower my car with a coil-over sleeve kit. How do I setup my vehicle with KONIs and coil-over sleeves?

A: There are many coil-over sleeve systems on the market but the key is to get ones that will fit the KONI damper properly. Most of these are built to fit over a large number of aftermarket shock absorber brands but this means many will not really fit well. KONI is unique in that some applications feature an adjustable spring seat mounted on a circlip on the shock body. This circlip design is extremely strong when it is loaded properly and the circlip is captured so that it cannot be forced open. However if the mounting on the circlip is unevenly loaded or not properly captured allowing the circlip to increase in diameter from load or impact, you have a potentially dangerous situation where damage could occur. With proper installation and loading, the circlip system allows for great strength and ride height adjustability at the same time. Additionally, when selecting and installing your coil-over system, care should be taken to avoid allowing the springs to coil bind (compressing the spring down to a solid state) during usage as this can risk bottoming and damage. A proper length bump rubber should be used to keep the spring from coil binding and the shocks from bottoming internally. You should contact the dealer or the manufacture of the coil-over system and get any necessary adapter rings necessary to mount the sleeve system to the KONI.

CTCOBALTSSS 09-01-2006 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Pieeater
Not sure if this helps anyone. From the Koni website.

Q: I want to lower my car with a coil-over sleeve kit. How do I setup my vehicle with KONIs and coil-over sleeves?

A: There are many coil-over sleeve systems on the market but the key is to get ones that will fit the KONI damper properly. Most of these are built to fit over a large number of aftermarket shock absorber brands but this means many will not really fit well. KONI is unique in that some applications feature an adjustable spring seat mounted on a circlip on the shock body. This circlip design is extremely strong when it is loaded properly and the circlip is captured so that it cannot be forced open. However if the mounting on the circlip is unevenly loaded or not properly captured allowing the circlip to increase in diameter from load or impact, you have a potentially dangerous situation where damage could occur. With proper installation and loading, the circlip system allows for great strength and ride height adjustability at the same time. Additionally, when selecting and installing your coil-over system, care should be taken to avoid allowing the springs to coil bind (compressing the spring down to a solid state) during usage as this can risk bottoming and damage. A proper length bump rubber should be used to keep the spring from coil binding and the shocks from bottoming internally. You should contact the dealer or the manufacture of the coil-over system and get any necessary adapter rings necessary to mount the sleeve system to the KONI.

Cool, thanks for that info! :twothumbs

Fueledpassion 09-01-2006 04:40 PM

Just to give you guys a bit of helpful information...you should know that MOST of these coilovers are designed for "race only" applications, therefore meaning they won't take well to pot holes, uneven roads, etc. Coilovers that are $1500+ are generally considered race only and are extremely uncomfortable UNLESS the company specifically says they are designed for street & track use. Be careful buying these things, you don't always need the most adjustable coilovers to get the best possible street setup. In many cases, you won't even use most of the assets in the system's design on the street. Tokico has already proven themselves time and time again with other imports and domestics as well. They generally have a good feel, and coupled with Eibach's springs could lead to a terrific setup for curvy roads. Plus, these are struts I believe, which are much more comfortable and cheaper too.

Koni is also a VERY good company to deal with when it comes to suspension.

pjk91 09-14-2006 09:27 AM

I've had KONI's on my sunfire for 80,000 miles on GroundControl sleeve coilovers, and the ride was awesome.

I'm really looking forward to the Tokico's if it really comes with that upper mount!

Fueledpassion 09-15-2006 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by pjk91
I've had KONI's on my sunfire for 80,000 miles on GroundControl sleeve coilovers, and the ride was awesome.

I'm really looking forward to the Tokico's if it really comes with that upper mount!

If you can...purchase Koni Yellow's over Tokico's. I like Tokico's, but Koni has a better suited strut for performance I think-->as a con, they are also more expensive.

GroundControl and Eibach are the best springs in the industry, not just for Balt's. So pick one of the two for the spring setup. GroundControl has more adjustability than Eibach, since they are sleeves and not just springs, so consider that before purchasing...

CTCOBALTSSS 10-16-2006 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by YellowLT
Someone on Here has a set of Koni Adjustables installed on his 2.4

I found him look at the last Pic

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums//showthread.php?t=28573


It's Brandon97z. Hey bro are these going to be available for the ss/sc?

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...stmentknob.JPG

torrin1234 11-06-2006 12:02 PM

Does anyone know if the cobalt-addiction coilovers are B+G yet?
And an update about the KW Variant 1 or 2?

Just want to know. Looking heavy into coilovers and I don't know to wait it out till April or not...

PlaysWitCars 11-06-2006 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by torrin1234
Does anyone know if the cobalt-addiction coilovers are B+G yet?
And an update about the KW Variant 1 or 2?

Just want to know. Looking heavy into coilovers and I don't know to wait it out till April or not...

I should be getting the KW Variant 1's in here this week. I will let you all know how they are.

CTCOBALTSSS 11-06-2006 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by PlaysWitCars
I should be getting the KW Variant 1's in here this week. I will let you all know how they are.

Sweet, can't wait to hear about them! :twothumbs

player_1 11-06-2006 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by torrin1234
Does anyone know if the cobalt-addiction coilovers are B+G yet?
And an update about the KW Variant 1 or 2?

Just want to know. Looking heavy into coilovers and I don't know to wait it out till April or not...

I don't know about the cobalt addiction ones, that has got to be a general pic, because there is no way something that looks like that would work on the cobalts.

but theTokico look promising depending on the price.

but as was stated above, be carefull not to buy a Race coilover, you'll hate driving your car o the streets.

I tested various springs of different rates and sizes for the JBP coilovers.
jbp will offer a set of race springs as well as a set of street/track springs.

the race spring were increadable interms of handeling, but the car felt like it had little to no give, so street driving broke my hart hearing the car bang round because of the road.

CobaltPerformanceParts 11-06-2006 04:39 PM

I have sold a couple of sets of the kw coilovers. They seem like a very street strip friendly set. There is also a suby in town that runs them on the track and as a daily driver.

Gravana1 12-20-2006 02:21 PM

Here You Go!

GRAVANA/BG COIL-OVERS CLICK HERE

Jim

CTCOBALTSSS 12-20-2006 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gravana1

Thanks for updating this thread. :cssNET:

PlaysWitCars 12-20-2006 02:42 PM

After a couple weeks of having the KW Coilovers on, i have really enjoyed them. I have been riding around with the car sitting level but low enough for daily driving and they are really performing well. I also lowered the front down to tuck the front and lowered the rear all the way down. It looks good but turning is a bitch haha so its raised back to where i had it before. You can get 1 finger between the tire and fender. And i absolutely love them. Def recommend them to anyone looking for daily driving and adjustability.

Gravana1 12-20-2006 02:56 PM

Gravana Coil-overs
 

Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Thanks for updating this thread. :cssNET:

No problem. TPR Magazine is testing them right now on their own SS and should have an article published shortly with an objective POV.

Jim

CobaltPerformanceParts 12-20-2006 08:26 PM

Hopefully we will have some more options available for suspension in the near future. However since my last post the KW have been selling exceptionally well. We have sold a lot of them lately and had nothing but good feedback on them.

torrin1234 12-30-2006 01:22 AM

B+G coilovers are going to be sold by Gravana, so I pre-ordered..

They say they are race and street so it's fine with me.
Hahaha my car already vibrates insanely anyways. Yay anti-wheel hop

Gravana1 12-30-2006 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by torrin1234 (Post 711239)
B+G coilovers are going to be sold by Gravana, so I pre-ordered..

They say they are race and street so it's fine with me.
Hahaha my car already vibrates insanely anyways. Yay anti-wheel hop

To bring it down to basics, the Gravana B+G coil-overs are designed to ride better than a good set of springs and dampers on the street, with the ability to adjust for more aggressive driving and track use. It is also a performance alternative to air bags for those who want to slam your car for shows, as you can lower the suspension at both points (lower bracket & spring perch) to get that added drop for the judges. And our j-body customers absolutely love this design for drag racing, as you can dial in your suspension better than anything else on the market.

When you add the Lifetime Warranty, ability to revalve and rebuild the internals, optional springs with higher and lower rates, optional adjustable camber plates, and optional electronic damping controller capability, you can see why we chose to back the B+G program for the Cobalt, Ion, Solstice, Sky, GTO and few other new models coming from GM over the next 20 months!

I hope this helps.

CTCOBALTSSS 01-01-2007 11:23 AM

I updated the thread to include Gravana's new coilovers. :twothumbs


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