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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Ground Control Coilovers???

I am debating whether to get ground control coilovers for my ss, but don't know how low they will actually go and if they are any good!! Has anyone used them, or know what i can expect?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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didnt know ground control made coilovers for our cars, whats the part number id like to look into it. ground control makes very high quality products by the way
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/.../CA=67
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Looks like a great price too....we need more competative prices.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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I've been happy with Ground Control coilovers in the past and I'll probably use them when I'm ready to lower my SS/SC.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Why in the picture it shows Eibachs? Is it just the height adjusters? What about the front? Ima call them in a few!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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$400????? that seems really really sketchy. Those are less than some koni struts. That is an insane price. Less than 1/2 of any other vendor.

Bluebalt... you know this company?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by toddsbalt
those are coilover sleeves... they go over a shock/strut and are very high quality since they use eibach springs.
Thats the crazy part. Eibach springs cost $300 themselves, now to make it a full coilover kit is crazy. I def wanna see pics of the front.

Sleeves? does that mean they are not a full kit? whats the difference?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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the sleeves don't include the shock/strut part... the springs are eibach and specifically made for the coilover kit, they are not the sportlines..
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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I dont get how this works, please explain..
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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In other words to get the best benefit we would mix and match, go out and get a set of koni struts and then put the coilover sleeves on top of them. so you would have koni struts with ground controls coilovers with eibach springs. now it makes sense that its only 400. cuz to get the real benefit you would have to spend minimum another 5 or 600 to get a real set of shocks
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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ground control definitely makes quality products, the best thing is once you have the threaded sleeve you can get hypercoil springs that match in dimension but in any spring rate you want. next autox season im looking to have 500lb springs in front and 600 in back, no more body roll.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Coil Over sleeves, not full out coil overs.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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they say shipping january 30
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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oh ok so those are just sleeves so i am curious have to get those springs then struts right so all together you would have somewhere in the area 600-800 for an awsome set up but any word on the tein coilovers for us
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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theres a guy that had them make them for him i think it was a IRL
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangerondubz
I dont get how this works, please explain..
Finally, Ground Control made us some coilovers! Goooodbye sportlines! I've been waiting for Ground Control to throw some goodness our way!

Ground Control coilovers are sleeve and spring style coilovers. They aren't full coilovers, as they do not include a shock/strut. Rather, you pair them with a stock/aftermarket shock/strut. Think of them as height adjustable lowering springs. For those looking to have height adjustability like that of full coilover, but aren't neccesarily after the other performance benefits of a full coilover, these are perfect.

And why is the price "sketchy" OrngBalt?? All Ground Control coilovers are about that price. If springs cost around $250, and full coilovers cost $750+, then $400 sounds exactly right for the "in between" solution. That extra $350 you'd be paying for full coilovers is paying for the shocks/struts that are included in a full coilover.

Another good thing is Ground Control uses Eibach's springs in their sleeve and spring coilovers, so the quality is top notch.

I can't believe some people haven't heard of Ground Control!!! They've been making sleeve and spring style coilovers for all popular makes/models of cars for years and years. Nopi has always been a big distributor of them.....always had them in their e-catalog.

And I really can't believe people didn't know what a sleeve and spring style coilover was. Its not like they're anything new......just new for a Cobalt I guess. Skunk 2 is another big brand that makes sleeve and spring coilovers for numerous models of cars. My friend Pat has the Skunk 2's on his Prelude, along with Tokico Illuminas.

Ground Control FTW!!!!!
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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yeah you guys are slippin if you've never heard of Ground Control before...

Koni struts and ground controls are supposed to be a solid setup though...
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteSSBalt
Finally, Ground Control made us some coilovers! Goooodbye sportlines! I've been waiting for Ground Control to throw some goodness our way!

Ground Control coilovers are sleeve and spring style coilovers. They aren't full coilovers, as they do not include a shock/strut. Rather, you pair them with a stock/aftermarket shock/strut. Think of them as height adjustable lowering springs. For those looking to have height adjustability like that of full coilover, but aren't neccesarily after the other performance benefits of a full coilover, these are perfect.

And why is the price "sketchy" OrngBalt?? All Ground Control coilovers are about that price. If springs cost around $250, and full coilovers cost $750+, then $400 sounds exactly right for the "in between" solution. That extra $350 you'd be paying for full coilovers is paying for the shocks/struts that are included in a full coilover.

Another good thing is Ground Control uses Eibach's springs in their sleeve and spring coilovers, so the quality is top notch.

I can't believe some people haven't heard of Ground Control!!! They've been making sleeve and spring style coilovers for all popular makes/models of cars for years and years. Nopi has always been a big distributor of them.....always had them in their e-catalog.

And I really can't believe people didn't know what a sleeve and spring style coilover was. Its not like they're anything new......just new for a Cobalt I guess. Skunk 2 is another big brand that makes sleeve and spring coilovers for numerous models of cars. My friend Pat has the Skunk 2's on his Prelude, along with Tokico Illuminas.

Ground Control FTW!!!!!
I retract my sketchy statement. I have never heard of them as I am still new to the modding so I saw coilovers for less than half than most kits. Didn't realize was a sleeve and spring system was.... now that I see and know what it is, they look pretty good.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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I didn't see anyone mention it but I'd imagine for the Cobalt front struts you have to grind/cut/otherwise remove the spring perches from the strut body (just like the J-Body) before you slip the coilover sleeve over it. The sleeves are precisely tapered and only slide down so far before they stop in the right place. The rear should be a slam dunk.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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how well do the these sleeves hold up in the winter?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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So technically(although it would be unadvised) you could use this set up with OEM struts and switch to Koni or whenever they are released the Tokico struts... Is that correct??
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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that is correct.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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HMMMMMMMMMMMM this is quite interesting..... I may have to play guinea pig
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LivinModified
how well do the these sleeves hold up in the winter?
I drove ocassionally in the winter with no problem. The thing to consider in winter is keeping the strut shafts covered to keep the elements off of them. I've seen people run without the boot covers. Also sand and dirt will collect on the threaded sleeves and you'll have to hose them off before changing your ride height without issue.

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So technically(although it would be unadvised) you could use this set up with OEM struts and switch to Koni or whenever they are released the Tokico struts... Is that correct??
Yeah but it can be a real bitch to get the sleeve back off the strut body, they can really get wedged on there. I had mine on Tokicos and then Mantapart struts and I remember some four letter words being yelled.
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