07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

sport lines dont drop it enough IMO all the cars that have them seem to have a 2 finger or so wheel gap. im sitting on the tire in the front and the rear. its an even gap across. its 1.4 in the front and 1.6 drop in the rear. Rack spacers are for all models.

ddscobalt - im installing mine next week as well. but i went for a ride in my buddies balt who has them. deff made me glad i purchased my set.

Tunerfreak91

Do sportlines or H&R's ride better? Anyone know the drop on Pedder's?

Boosted_Cobalt09

pedders is similar to the sportlines as far as the drop goes. h and r to me is waaaaay better then sportlines

08ShowbaltLS

well idk if its that much of a drop.

i still have stock fe1 suspension and id blow the struts out within a month.
so how much inch wise lower than sportlines front and rear?

qwikredline

the rates of Eibach to H&R are similar the coil bind is similar. They both imho suck compared to pedders. You wanna tuck the wheels go air ride.

Tunerfreak91

Is there anything comparable to the Pedders springs but with a bit more drop? Qwikredline, do you know happen to have any info on TEIN springs for the Balt SS/SC?

-Thanks

qwikredline

Pedders coil overs' then you can adjust the car until the tires take out the inner fender liners. Nothing on TEIN which means I have not rated ALL springs.... AIRBAGS gotta be the trick for lo riders. There is a Chevy older pick me up truck around here in the summer (it is kewl )with airride....truck is very well done, guy spent A LOT OF MONEY on it

Band saw those stock springs you want a cheap drop....watch the hate posts begin

Tunerfreak91

Alright thanks. I'm not looking to do anything that extreme though lol.

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

if you want a nice tuck without spending big bucks on coilovers H&Rs the way to go

08ShowbaltLS

so with completely broken in h&rs i wont rub even with 18's? will my shocks and struts go out quick if i have fe1 suspension?

Chase0224

not gonna be able to order them this month, OTTP has cut me too good of deals on performance parts lol. Next month for sure.

qwikredline

wont rub wont screw your shocks if you leave your bump stops alone, WILL ride like crap.

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

no you will not rub on 18s. and I would upgrade to TC suspension or Koni's

08ShowbaltLS

im going to get the ss/tc suspension in a few months but what do you mean about it riding like crap?

qwikredline

well. what happens with the lowering springs, in the case of progessively wound spring wire (varying coils) the first 3-5 rows of coils collapse and "bind" together. This leaves maybe 2 or 3 coils doing the spring work. These remaingin coils work hard and the spring rate goes quite high and the shocks have a hard time "damping" the spring. This means that the shocks job is making sure that when the wheel goes up and down as the is spring deflecting, it does so just once per impact cycle. As the shock cant handle this, the car bounces up and down constantly at the rear (like a ricer civic) and that produces a crappy ride.

08ShowbaltLS

damn son you and maven really kno ur ****...
thanks for info man, im just going to wait then and ride 4x4 til i get the ss/tc strut and shock package with ottp hardcore rear sway. sound like a good idea?

heres the car with the rims and no springs. the front is okay but i kno that back is going to look funny... and yes my parents own 2 g8s in the background.




and heres with a friend sitting on it. id like to drop it at least this much

qwikredline

those front wheels look mity fine! What are they? You will be fine...you friend needs to eat more lol

With Pedders *cough cough* the drop would be more than that. So try tc shocks the 1.0 OTTP hardcore bar and pedders springs 'bout the only thing you would need more is rack spacers, powergrid inc drop link and OTT cabs. I BET that OTTP would give you free original time attack rack spacers *cough hack* if you ordered springs from them etc.

I buy my TC shocks and struts from Gene Culley he is on here, runs a 2.2 s/c G5 (brave man) he is at GM Partshouse and can get you good prices on that GM stuff....

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

the second to last sentence just killed it. PLEASE dont cut your springs. H&Rs will drop more than your friend sitting on it, the tire will be at the edge of the fender like the pictures i posted.

Chase0224

look at what that one kid did to his SS when he was too cheap to buy springs and cut his. Basically fucked up his entire suspension. DONT DO IT

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

exactly what he said!

08ShowbaltLS

alright alright it was a just a thought.
i was all set on just h&rs and rack spacers until qwik told me how crappy the ride will be so im kinda stuck on what to do with a limited budget.

what do you guys think?

Chase0224

H&R's dont ride crappy, metallic has them and said he likes them?

qwikredline

the pedders are rising rate, similar rate to TC fully compressed but a little higher; the free length and therefore installed length is less so the car trims to a lower ride height. The rising rate curve is different to the TC ( I think it is better ). No problem with ride at all.

I have run cut springs but the reaction here on the forum is wild. Done right, cut springs are fine. Its not hard to do it right , its just most people dont.

Much safer to install Pedders at the get go....

08ShowbaltLS

ill just wait and get it all together.
arent pedders a little more expensive like 300ish?

07MetallicSC

iTrader: (16)

qwick said they will ride like **** on your stock ls struts.
I have them and even when i used to be on stock struts the ride wasnt bouncy or harsh.
I would if i did it again just save and get koni yellows at the same time however.
my friend whos modified mostly trucks took my balt for a ride and said it was the best lowered vehicle ride hes ever been in.
im not saying H&Rs>all just giving you what i can on them since i own them