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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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I am having some serious frustration with a simple brake job. I replaced my front and rear pads. I replaced my front rotors as well and just left the rears be. I used a c-clamp to decompress the calipers with the cap off. Did all that,then installed them,bled the hell out of the whole system 3 times. Cranked the e-brake numerous times to set the rears. Pedal is still extremely spongy and I can take it to the floor. I know I am not leaking any fluid and nothing I beleive is kinked or knotted up. I marked on the master cylinder a fill luine and pumped the breaks with the car running 50 times and no fluid loss at all. I have no clue what the hell the problem is. Please help....
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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I am having some serious frustration with a simple brake job. I replaced my front and rear pads. I replaced my front rotors as well and just left the rears be. I used a c-clamp to decompress the calipers with the cap off. Did all that,then installed them,bled the hell out of the whole system 3 times. Cranked the e-brake numerous times to set the rears. Pedal is still extremely spongy and I can take it to the floor. I know I am not leaking any fluid and nothing I beleive is kinked or knotted up. I marked on the master cylinder a fill luine and pumped the breaks with the car running 50 times and no fluid loss at all. I have no clue what the hell the problem is. Please help....
did you start with the furthest brake line from the master cylinder?

how are you bleeding the system?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Yes I started with the farthest...I had a fellow coworker of mine help me while he was in the inside. We have done this to several cars in the past. There was no air in the lines whatsoever.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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why did you bleed the brakes for a rotor swap and pads?? i wouldnt have bothered, i would rebleed them though. one more time just for ***** sake, might of got air in them
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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There was no reason for me to bleed them thats just it. It was like that before I bleed the **** out of them. I though bleeding them would fixed whatever is wrong with them..it makes no sense.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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hmmmm

bad master cylinder??? dunno...
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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i dunno either man...something had to happen from me compressing the calipers but they are all working.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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i dunno either man...something had to happen from me compressing the calipers but they are all working.
when i did my brakes they went back to the normal pedal feel after a couple of pumps.

damn, wish i could come help, but miles away.

good luck to yah brutha.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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I have seen something as simple as doing a brake fluid flush take out the master cylinder
just weird how stuff like that works, as stated above i would try to bleed them more try going through as much brake fluid as possible, and sometimes the ABS motor and valves throw a fit.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Yeah thanks.....someone has to know....

I guess im just gonna flaush it again tomorrow...when I started it up after I installed them but before I flushed it...when the pedal felt like crap I was like....really...how does this happen

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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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when u fulshed the system did u do with fresh brake fluid? (Sorry have to ask) Assuming you did, did you notice the old fluid change to the new fluid. (old fluid being dark colored, new being a light gold color).
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Yes...but it was getting dark when I did the fronts...I cracked the rears about 10 times a piece and the fronts 10-15 times...Fluid was clean and new.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Did you blow a piston seal using a c clamp? You should be able to push them with just hand force.
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