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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Megan vs. Stance vs. Pedders Coilovers

Just looking for opinions on what of the 3 is the better coilover and WHY?
Please dont give me a 1 word answer saying " Stance" or whatever, explain yourself.
The reason im looking at these 3 is because they look so simular in build yet range is price. they have pretty simular spring rates. the only difference i have found is the stance coils are 16way adjustable and they can only be adjusted from the bottom of the shock where as the pedders and megan coils are down through the top of the shock on the pillowball, and are 32way adjustable.
any help would be asom.

here are some pic of all there coils.

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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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pretty much what he said. when he rode in mine they were set to full soft and not lowered all the way. i will say i think the rear springs are soft but they made these coilovers with the intent of having streetability and some raceability in mind. going up to a 6k spring in the rear would be all good.

megans are crap but if your looking for a drog they are cheaper and get the job done.

pedders xa their isnt enough info about them from other people yet to know really.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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The difference really comes down to the quality of the strut. Sure megan is 32 way adjustable, but you will not feel every click, and they are made cheaper and will not take as much abuse. However Stance uses a quality strut. There may be less adjustment or "clicks" but you will feel every increment. I dont know enough about Pedders to say anything. In the suspension game 98% of the time you get what you pay for.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. i think im gona go with HSD coilovers. HSD makes Stance coilovers. there pretty much identical minus the springs the stance being progressive and the HSD being linear, and the HSD being green and gold.. the shock and struts look the same too. not to mention i can get the HSD coils local.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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I'm think I heard that the HSD's don't allow you to slam your car as much as the Stance's do.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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I'm think I heard that the HSD's don't allow you to slam your car as much as the Stance's do.
they dont but if your using coilovers for what they are intended for then why would you be slamming your car?

also to answer your question about adjustability........what are your goals for your setup? you trying to get a badass handeling setup? are you trying to slam it and call it a day? have you played with coilovers before? are you looking for an easily tuned setup or something more complicated?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Are the HSD cheaper than Stance? Where can I find them?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_Cobalt09
they dont but if your using coilovers for what they are intended for then why would you be slamming your car?

also to answer your question about adjustability........what are your goals for your setup? you trying to get a badass handeling setup? are you trying to slam it and call it a day? have you played with coilovers before? are you looking for an easily tuned setup or something more complicated?
90% of people with coilovers probably buy them to slam the car, not for racing. If he isn't planning on an aggressive drop and plans on tracking the car, then Pedders and TC struts would be a cheaper way to achieve excellent handling.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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I've got Pedders coilovers, if y'all have any questions about them. In fact that pic of them above are mine before I installed them.

I installed them for racing and personal preference, though I must say the look isn't bad at all, and the drop the way they come out of the box is more agressive than Pedders springs (with much more room to drop if that's what you're going for... I just used the height that they came with).

When paired with the OTTP Street Bar, I've gotten 1.00g lateral on all-season tires and on an unprepared road. I'm hopeful to see what happens with sticky tires, different camber settings, etc. It's already stuck to the road very well now.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys.
Basicly im looking for a street set up that i can use at the road course/ drag strip, and still drive home without back problems. i have been doing the occasional road race this year but really into the drag racing scene.
I have had coilover before on my mazda3. they were bc coils. i installed them myself and adjusted the shocks and what not to get the proper ride.
i dont plan on slamming my car so to speak. im looking to drop the car so the top of the fender is flush or a little higher than the top of the tire. i want to keep sum shock travel.
Refering to the HSD coils. from what i understand the proto-type Stance coils are the production HSD coils. this can explain not being able to lower as much as the stance.
O well ill keep shopping around. i have the funds and commited to buy coils, now its a matter of research.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SSmokedd
Thanks for all the input guys.
Basicly im looking for a street set up that i can use at the road course/ drag strip, and still drive home without back problems. i have been doing the occasional road race this year but really into the drag racing scene.
I have had coilover before on my mazda3. they were bc coils. i installed them myself and adjusted the shocks and what not to get the proper ride.
i dont plan on slamming my car so to speak. im looking to drop the car so the top of the fender is flush or a little higher than the top of the tire. i want to keep sum shock travel.
Refering to the HSD coils. from what i understand the proto-type Stance coils are the production HSD coils. this can explain not being able to lower as much as the stance.
O well ill keep shopping around. i have the funds and commited to buy coils, now its a matter of research.
the stances ive very pleased with so far. i can get them for a good price too just pay shipping lol.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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i have megan on my 09T/C, and i love it. the shocks itself can be height adjust which is a plus. and the spring rates are good, 6kg front and rear. its a good setup because FWD should not have front stiff rear soft, this will creates more understeer, if you look at a lot of japanese FWD race car such as the spoon civic, integra, they all have fron front springs softer than rear springs. the dampening adjust is awesome, i have it on street setting, and its pretty comfortable. but hey, its linear rate springs, so its always gonna be stiff. can't do much about that, but i handles real good when i went to arroyo seco raceway road course.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fakameanrepresent
i have megan on my 09T/C, and i love it. the shocks itself can be height adjust which is a plus. and the spring rates are good, 6kg front and rear. its a good setup because FWD should not have front stiff rear soft, this will creates more understeer, if you look at a lot of japanese FWD race car such as the spoon civic, integra, they all have fron front springs softer than rear springs. the dampening adjust is awesome, i have it on street setting, and its pretty comfortable. but hey, its linear rate springs, so its always gonna be stiff. can't do much about that, but i handles real good when i went to arroyo seco raceway road course.

Actually 97% of the coilovers for civics have the front stiffer than the rear. Very few companies choose to do it the other way. The only one I can think of off hand is one of the tein coilovers thats like 14k/22k which is nuts and only for track. Otherwise the most common set-up is 8k/6k. How would I know, Ive only been into the honda scene for 3-4 yrs prior to buying this cobalt.


Sorry to get off topic but nice review, how low do you have them set? Any pics? I kind of wrote them off because I can get Ksport for like $30 more than Megan. Megan does use BC dampeners though.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dandaman15
Actually 97% of the coilovers for civics have the front stiffer than the rear. Very few companies choose to do it the other way. The only one I can think of off hand is one of the tein coilovers thats like 14k/22k which is nuts and only for track. Otherwise the most common set-up is 8k/6k. How would I know, Ive only been into the honda scene for 3-4 yrs prior to buying this cobalt.


Sorry to get off topic but nice review, how low do you have them set? Any pics? I kind of wrote them off because I can get Ksport for like $30 more than Megan. Megan does use BC dampeners though.
front stiff???? maybe for street setting but not for track setup. having rear stiff would makes the FWD a liitle less understeer.

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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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I don't see why one having a stiffer front vs another is such a big deal to y'all... We've already surpassed one lateral g with neutral handling with coilovers! It's obvious that the ingredients are working and working very well.

No need to get bogged down by the details when the end result already shows that it works. Just sayin'.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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in all honesty with the stances i figured they would need a stiffer rate in the back BUT with a larger sway bar like the hardcore bar ive found it to be a pretty good setup.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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yeah...like isaid you need to remember stance made these coilovers to be streetable aswell as trackable so they dont race race rates. larger bar out back will accomodate.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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thanks for all the responces guys. this is a really tuff choice. getting these coils locally is what i really want i dont want to get hit with all the shipping fees.
im gona talk to one of my suppliers tonght to get an idea for what i can get and for what price.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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for HSD there is a group buy on Ontario cobalt clubs you cant beat... check their site
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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i was going to go with megan hopefully soon cause they seem decent and i can get them for a good price and megan sales upgrades for the springs..
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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i was going to go with megan hopefully soon cause they seem decent and i can get them for a good price and megan sales upgrades for the springs..
depends if you awnt a good coilover. megans are crap when you compare them to stance hsd(they make stance) and pedders. save up and dont cheap out.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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so im looking to get coilovers but cant judify the 1200-1500 on coils megans seem like decent price at 900 new whats wrong with megan i got to track but not much only drag nothing else im looking to slam my car thats all
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stamina
I don't see why one having a stiffer front vs another is such a big deal to y'all... We've already surpassed one lateral g with neutral handling with coilovers! It's obvious that the ingredients are working and working very well.

No need to get bogged down by the details when the end result already shows that it works. Just sayin'.
Quite frankly, a simple skidpad test tells me very little, and my definition of neutral obviously differs from other folks. I call my setup neutral with a tendency to push in slow corners and extended slow sweepers. It's FWD after all...

OTTP hardcore bar
OTTP CAB/front bushings
Pedders
Nitto NT01 w/ -2.0
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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Quite frankly, a simple skidpad test tells me very little, and my definition of neutral obviously differs from other folks. I call my setup neutral with a tendency to push in slow corners and extended slow sweepers. It's FWD after all...

OTTP hardcore bar
OTTP CAB/front bushings
Pedders
Nitto NT01 w/ -2.0
Nice setup!

How hard were those CABs to get in?

I've currently got an OTTP street bar and NT05s with -1.0... how do you like your tire/camber combo?
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Nice setup!

How hard were those CABs to get in?

I've currently got an OTTP street bar and NT05s with -1.0... how do you like your tire/camber combo?
they arent hard if you know how to press bushings in and out
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