So basically suspension/brakes wise I already have:

sportlines
DC strut bar
OTTP Hardcore rear sway bar
Engine and trans mounts
Red stuff brake pads
Stainless brake lines
rotors

and I am currently waiting on Koni yellows.

What other suspension mods would help? And please don't say coilovers because obviously I'm not getting them (Plus I would never adjust them...which is thier purpose). And I'm not putting brembos on so exclude those. I just want to know what I could add to improve the suspension further.

Is the cobalt addiction floor brace worth it?

What about sway bar endlinks or spherical control arm bushings?

What do you guys think?

 

one take off the strut bar. get the ottp control arm bushings and get the endlinks. dont get the floor brace u dont want to stiffen up the front it will just cuz more understeer and u want a little oversteer. also get some good tires

 

Really take off the strut bar? Its really better to remove it? I mean when I bought the car it was on there already. But I didn't think it was hurting the suspension.

 

ditch the koni's

the unit-to-unit consistency is fairly non-existent, jack squat for rebound damping leads to inconsistent tire patch and poorly controlled GBM

a set of TC dampers will net an equal or greater handling improvement while remaining vary consistent and extremely durable.

 

Hmm ok noted... I'll look into that. Whats your take on this whole ditch the strut bar?

 

do it IMO.

the towers are sooooooooooooooooo close to the firewall that your never going to flex them. especially on street tires.

 

Yes its true. GMPP engineers even tested it on the cobalt...found nothing gained.

TC suspesion with pedders springs seems to be a very popular combo...

 

but it doesn't hurt the suspension?

 

the pedders springs drop the car maybe a 1" and dont ride harsh like the eibachs. So what you need is the TC struts and shocks, then pedders springs, they are expensive but well worth it. As I think Maven said, they offer performance, ride quality, looks...in that order as they dont drop the car a lot some people wont like them. But if you autox or just want a better handling car they will fit the bill.

 

u need the front to not be so stiff and tight cuz ur causing understeer. take off the strut bar and take ur car for a spin

 

oh hell. stop talking.

 

Woah whats up your anus?

And we are done talking...

/thread

 

not you, the guy above my post.

some garbled Engrish about a "tight" front end causing push......

 

i have driven my car at auto-x with and without the strut bar i got more understeer with it than without. wats so wrong with sayin that.....

 

man i dont know what you are talking about the harsh ride on the eibachs, i have them on my tc and it feels great...

 

its eaither all in your head (my suspect) or its any number of external conditions.

there is a "built in" strut bar on the delta chassis, its called the firewall.

no skimpy little DC sports bar, or what ever brand, is stronger then that, nor will your tires generate enough load to deform it.

 

all ik is my car was gettin more with it than without it. and having one is pointless its been tested.

 

hahah dude you havent even had them on long enough to break in have you? Honestly you havent even had more than 1 spring to test have you? Just because you have this 1 spring on for 3 months doesnt mean ****. The eibachs have a lower drop and obviously with out even using physics that would mean it has to give up something. Its a stiff, rough ride. Although you may think its not, and like I said it may not even be broken in. Do you even know the spring rates?

 

Well I will say this. I removed the strut bar and it made a dramatic difference in the ride quality and the hard cornering. You might not be able to tell but I have been driving my car since I bought it with this strut bar already installed. I can definitely feel a slight flex in the front end, especially when I go over an uneven bump where on wheel takes the brunt of the bump. Instead of the whole front end making a loud slam the car seems to be able to flex over the bump. You might not believe it but I am 100% sure there is an effect. I can't be sure performance wise but it drastically improved the ride quality... I can't believe its been the main reason my car has been taking certain bumps a bit more rough than usual.

 

did u notice less understeer?

 

Considerably, it was really surprising. I didn't believe it but its a huge change to me because I have never experience my car with out it. I appreciate the tip, it seems like this whole time I was ruining the purpose of the OTTP rear sway bar.

 

The best thing you can do is join an autox forum and ask questions on there about your setup, you can learn a lot about suspension from autox guys.

 

no problem i had the same prob. plus now u can sell it for like 80-90bucks and put that towards sway bar endlinks or control arm bushings

 

this is a perfect example of the placebo effect.

if you had a vBox or some other simple plug-n-play data aq piece you'd see this in the results.

on wide r-comps strut bars wernt used.

 

harsh. troof.