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qwikredline 05-23-2011 10:04 AM

Thanks Scott. New Hoosiers can be two-three seconds faster over old ones, maybe even more over two year old ones! U good.

scottherbert 05-27-2011 06:56 AM

Autocrossing with an XXX sway bar:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMG_1084.jpg
Almost off the ground under heavy braking and entering the turn-in.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMG_0868.jpg
Turning at speed - pretty flat but I may need to up the spring rates again...

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMG_1253.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMG_0871.jpg
You can just see the bar under the rear of the car in this photo.

Scott

jboogie 05-27-2011 07:34 AM

:twothumbs

IdreamofYenko 05-27-2011 11:35 PM

Damn that's cornering pretty flat.

Powell Race Parts 05-27-2011 11:44 PM

Thats good looking action Scott! How are the times with new Hoosiers? Or are you saving them for later on in the season? Good luck.

IdreamofYenko 05-28-2011 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts (Post 5814269)
Thats good looking action Scott! How are the times with new Hoosiers? Or are you saving them for later on in the season? Good luck.

This account must mean the site is getting closer. ETA?

Powell Race Parts 05-28-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by IdreamofYenko (Post 5814299)
This account must mean the site is getting closer. ETA?

o i dunno these race track events are gobbling time. another week i hope. its not gonna be the end of the world u know lol, we dont make a lot of parts,and I dont dream of reselling gauges and canned tunes....thanks for asking :bye:

Omnigear 05-28-2011 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts (Post 5814538)
o i dunno these race track events are gobbling time. another week i hope. its not gonna be the end of the world u know lol, we dont make a lot of parts,and I dont dream of reselling gauges and canned tunes....thanks for asking :bye:

instead of supporting vendor below your name it should be "Suspension God"




who haz a street bar or hardcore bar for sale? ^_^

whyyoumadson? 05-28-2011 11:12 AM

ill have my hardcore bar for sale soon enough.

Powell Race Parts 05-28-2011 07:26 PM

^^^^ troof lol. i am liking xXx. Liking Scotts car but not liking his wheels sticking out hope my redline looks better than that, my wheels stick out too...wrecks the paint on the rocker and the rear bumper1/4 ugh

whyyoumadson? 05-28-2011 07:33 PM

yeah i has a special part being made.

scottherbert 05-28-2011 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts (Post 5815472)
^^^^ troof lol. i am liking xXx. Liking Scotts car but not liking his wheels sticking out hope my redline looks better than that, my wheels stick out too...wrecks the paint on the rocker and the rear bumper1/4 ugh

I don't like wheels sticking out either -- but I have less than 1/4" clearance between the wheel/tire and the struts right now. There's no way to keep 10" wheels and 11" tires inside the wheel wells (other than lots of expensive body work which I don't need to afford right now). I don't use the 10" rims on the street - just for autocross.

You asked about me newer slicks earlier -- my less old 285s are down to (or below) the wear marks and are pretty much useless -- very much heat-cycled out. I'm going to see my local sponsor (the logos on the hood and doors) this week and discuss $$$ for new tires for the Nationals, I can live with the 255s til then - makes me work harder.

I'm looking at the new Goodyear 275/35 x 18s -- I've read good reports -- seemingly better stick both cold and hot, better wear, more predictable -- anyway, they're worth a try. They're $310/tire and Hoosier 285s are $336/tire -- the Goodyears are even cheaper. I've made contact with Carrol Shelby Enterprises in Phoenix and am waiting their notice with the next batch of Goodyears arrive. The 275s state that they are 0.4" narrower than a Hoosier 285, and about 0.8" taller than the Hoosier. We'll see how they work.

I'm thinking seriously about upping the front spring rate to 800 lbs and making the rears 700 lbs.

I just picked up a 96 Dodge Dakota SLT V8 truck with the heavy trailer package (posi, heavy automatic, Class IV hitch, etc.) and a cap, and I'm looking for a tandem axle 7,000 or 10,000 lb car trailer so I can trailer the Cobalt rather than driving it long distances. I'm working on the truck these days to get it ready to haul (external trans cooler, trans cooler thermostat, larger trans pan, extended filter, bigger/stiffer diff cover that holds twice as much Mobil 1 75-90 diff lube for the posi-traction, external oil cooler, oil cooler thermostat, external high capacity oil filter, or two (it should hold about 8/9 qts of oil), all new shocks, new rear springs, new poly sway bar components, headers, throttle body spacer, various new hoses, some wiring, bulbs, head and tail lights, etc., etc. I paid $2200 for the truck with 136,000 miles on it. I figure I'll put about $1000+ into maintenance upgrade items on the truck and be good to go.

Now all I need to find is a trailer.

Did I ever mention that I used to 'do V8s? Or that I also used to 'do' VW air cooleds.

Scott

IdreamofYenko 05-28-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts (Post 5814538)
o i dunno these race track events are gobbling time. another week i hope. its not gonna be the end of the world u know lol, we dont make a lot of parts,and I dont dream of reselling gauges and canned tunes....thanks for asking :bye:

That's cool I was just wondering. No rush at all I know y'all are super busy up there with all the track cars and stuff. I think it would take away from the mystic that is PRP if you guys did a lot of reselling of bs parts that can be found on 15 other sites.

jb09ss 06-02-2011 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by scottherbert (Post 5815594)
I'm thinking seriously about upping the front spring rate to 800 lbs and making the rears 700 lbs.

Scott

Forget the weak 800 and 700 lbs/in stuff, I got what you need, 950 lbs/in.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/Photo002.jpg

:lol:

Wangspeed 06-02-2011 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by jb09ss (Post 5825334)
Forget the weak 800 and 700 lbs/in stuff, I got what you need, 950 lbs/in.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/Photo002.jpg

:lol:

Odd spring. It's extremely long. Normally most springs that stiff are very short, since the travel is very small. The length of that spring requires that it's also super thick core. Just an altogether odd spring, that I can't see being used in a performance car.

jb09ss 06-02-2011 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Wangspeed (Post 5826054)
Odd spring. It's extremely long. Normally most springs that stiff are very short, since the travel is very small. The length of that spring requires that it's also super thick core. Just an altogether odd spring, that I can't see being used in a performance car.

Yes, it is an odd spring. 16'' overall length, 2,5'' i.d. and 5'' of stroke (4.5'' is used in service). Wire size is 0,750'' (which is huge). I designed it for an oil industry application. I don't think I can show pictures of the finished product without my customer getting mad at me. And yes the spring constant is really high for that much active coils. Btw it looks bigger in person, a question of perspective + the fact that the hand holding it belongs to a 6'6'' dude. (myself, lol)

scottherbert 06-02-2011 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by jb09ss (Post 5826138)
Yes, it is an odd spring. 16'' overall length, 2,5'' i.d. and 5'' of stroke (4.5'' is used in service). Wire size is 0,750'' (which is huge). I designed it for an oil industry application. I don't think I can show pictures of the finished product without my customer getting mad at me. And yes the spring constant is really high for that much active coils. Btw it looks bigger in person, a question of perspective + the fact that the hand holding it belongs to a 6'6'' dude. (myself, lol)


So I was gonna say: if you have it in 6" length, then maybe...

Various of my fellow SP and Mod SCCA folks run 1000+ lb springs. I'm just a fan of 'some' chassis movement....

Nice photo.

Scott

Wangspeed 06-02-2011 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by scottherbert (Post 5826675)
So I was gonna say: if you have it in 6" length, then maybe...

Various of my fellow SP and Mod SCCA folks run 1000+ lb springs. I'm just a fan of 'some' chassis movement....

Nice photo.

Scott

I ran 1200 lb/in springs on the back of my Honda Challenge car. I tried standing on one of them, and I couldn't tell it compressed.

jboogie 06-02-2011 11:08 PM

So, the XXX bar was right about $300 shipped, correct??

PenguinPIE 06-03-2011 04:46 PM

more reviews please!

im still deciding between hardcore and triple x bar

how different would the ride be? the road around here is horrible...

ronn 06-03-2011 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by PenguinPIE (Post 5828886)
more reviews please!

im still deciding between hardcore and triple x bar

how different would the ride be? the road around here is horrible...

Ok..I have a TC with Pedders and chose the *softcore* STREET BAR (1")! Yep. I also have Koni shocks on the rear. Car is PERFECT and turns on a dime. Powell told me that's all I needed for normal street use and occassional track. Keep in mind this is NOT a replacement bar for the stocker..it's an ADDITION! I have experience road racing and I can tell you the street bar will be more than sufficient for 90% of cars here. Wangspeed will say otherwise:) and most here will take issue with what I have said. They're entitled to their opinion...but I KNOW first hand what the street bar is capable of. I would NOT..I repeat NOT....get the XXX bar. Plain over kill and most likely over your head as far being able to use it properly.


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