Post your Twin Sub Frame Bar Pic
I was getting a FE5 24mm front sway. but may just buy this. Seems like it would tighten up the front end just as well. I also am getting a MRZ strut bar.
do you like it real well. AND what would you suggest? just get this instead of the front sway(FE5) or the sway instead of this subframe bar? I'm getting one or the other
do you like it real well. AND what would you suggest? just get this instead of the front sway(FE5) or the sway instead of this subframe bar? I'm getting one or the other
Does the oil drain right onto the bar??? 
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
Does the oil drain right onto the bar??? 
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
I also dont like how little thread is engaged in in those nuts....I mean it cant really go anywhere(even with nuts off it wont fall out) its just a little detail I noticed.
I always want to see pics.
Last edited by Maven; Nov 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
No I dont think its truly pointless, but I dont feel its necessary for a proper handling car, and like I said, theres numerous of other things you could do with over $100 to improve the your car more than this would.
I also dont like how little thread is engaged in in those nuts....I mean it cant really go anywhere(even with nuts off it wont fall out) its just a little detail I noticed.
I always want to see pics.
I also dont like how little thread is engaged in in those nuts....I mean it cant really go anywhere(even with nuts off it wont fall out) its just a little detail I noticed.
I always want to see pics.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/lounge-42/r-w-twin-subframe-review-141035/
It works for me. Yes i did a oil change yesterday and oil hits the bar Oh well did it at the shop LOL just throw some kitty litter on that ****.
Yes im agreeing with you Maven. but i did put the bar on and then took it off to compare. and i do notice a difference. as for the bolt in the picture those are stock. put the new ones in when i put the bar on a second time.
Yes im agreeing with you Maven. but i did put the bar on and then took it off to compare. and i do notice a difference. as for the bolt in the picture those are stock. put the new ones in when i put the bar on a second time.
Good stuff Copson, glad to hear we are on the same page, I get frustrated when people try to push a mod they did as being earth shattering and completely transforms the car,(especially if its not a free mod) when in reality its more like "yeah, I noticed a difference". 
You should really proofread your sig, seeing as how youre a Tirfecta dealer and all......

You should really proofread your sig, seeing as how youre a Tirfecta dealer and all......
Does the oil drain right onto the bar??? 
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
This doesnt do the same thing as a sway bar. The sway bar dramatically alters the way the car handles.
These tie bars make the subframe stiffer, they make it harder for the frame to flex under load.
A front sway bar will make you or break you at AutoX and reduces the amount of body roll on the car. This doesnt affect body roll or suspension travel at all, and its highly unlikely that this would give one car the edge over another in an AutoX
I feel these belong in the same folder as lightweight pulleys. Great in theory, looks good on your mod list, and yeah youll be able to tell its there(maybe), but theres other mods that yield far superior results.
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