Hey everyone, A nice shop by my house called Touge factory is about to release a new coilover suspension kit for our cars check it out they are the GR+ on the web site. www.stance-usa.com, i have them bolted up on my car and i can tell you they are nuthing but AMAZING! The company is in house meaning they build this suspension. they test fit it to my car and it is now for sale to the public or in a few weeks. i can tell you, you will not find a better suspension for our cars anywhere else but here so check it out PM me if you are interested the price is prob gonna be around 1400$ but it is worth every penny again PM me if interested and maybe we can work out a little better price. oh yeah they were test fit on an 06 so 05-07 is ok but the 08 and 09 im not sure. oh yeah they come with camber plates also.



2006 Cobalt SS/SC, Completely Gutted interior, Bride racing seat, CA Harness bar, 18x9.5 one off SSR wheels, diamond coated/ forged pistons, rings, pins, 9:5.1 compression bored .20 over, GMPP camshafts/ cam gears, stock valvetrain for now, honed & extruded exhaust manifold, Hahn 3" catless dp, custom 3" exhaust didnt want to pay 700$, Fujita CAI, and still running the stock "Heaton" m62 supercharger, CA dual pass intercooler plate and CA heat exchanger and GR+ stance suspension and Eibach sway bars, and front and rear strut tower braces.

 

hm, i really want to look , but for some reason the website isn't working for me.

 

why would you pay $1400 for a kit from a company no one knows when other companies, big name companies like B&G have kits that have been proven and tested and cost but maybe $1100 and they have group buys on right now for $700-$750. why would i give my money to someone who is "testing" a kit versus someone whos company has been around for ages and you dont have to worry about it being a new product for them to try and make money.

 

Are you serious?

Look into time-attack and drift and see how many cars have been using Stance products with great success.

Maybe car n00bs don't know of them, but i've known of Stance for a while now. Their products are badass. I might look into these.

 

there are a lot of companies that are "unknown" to people like you and me, but are exclusive to the racing world, and used soley by professionals, that would laugh at the products we clamor for.

just saying.

 

dont you already have coil overs bro'?

 

ok but when i looked at this website the applications dont even have any domestic car applications so that to me means they are adjusting it to fit and how exactly are they modifying it to make it work and what is it losing.

 

Well said.

To the average car joe: Tein, KW, B&G, K-Sport, BC, Eibach, H&R.....

To the well educated: Function & Form, Stance, DG5, Kg/Mm, Zeal.........etc etc etc.

Unfourtunantly, most high end coilover manufactuers don't make coilovers for our cars

 

yeah, i just felt like sounding smart. haha

pretty much the mounting points and the damping/spring rates are the only thinks that need to change. i would imagine they have done research to build the proper kit for the Cobalt, especially if they have a test car as well.

 

very true

 

er that list is way too short and just having a car to fit the stuff too doesnt make that a test car in the real sense. Tracfk and street shock testing takes time and money 7 post rig stuff it a couple of grand an hour. So you figure it out.

Ohlins, Koni are most expensive but the best and have shocks that fit a Cobalt, and the valving available is 7 post rig tested iby GM and track tested as well in development.

Ohlins have the most effective valving technically, Koni is the most current due to Grand Am GM development.

Bilstein are brilliant and mono tube gas shocks they do with digressive valving lasts for ever, but GM have not done any vavling work with them as far as I know, Penske do great stuff that is equally easy being redone by a professional or tuned by an amateur... but when the above brands costs 3500 to 7000 bucks for 4 shocks, that just everyone runs away.

As Maven has pointed out the stock TC valving is as good as it gets for the money, seriously developed and proven by GM. And if you can fit a simple coil over sleeve on a TC strut you can have front and rear coil overs for little money.

On all of these kits, the rear is not a coil over as such as the Cobalt TWB does not lend itself to that, no room for a spring over the shock itself. And none of the aftermarket stuff has done any serious development of spring rates and valving other than the brands I have named.

 

John, have you seen JBP's coilover kit? its all bilstein apparently, and the rear has the spring over the damper, i guess completely doing away with the stock spring location.

And yes, i understand it involves more than that. i guess what i said was a bad way to express that. Haha, i hate it when you discuss suspension, makes me feel so inferior, but then again, you have years and years of experience to get where you are, so the smartest thing to do, is listen when you give advice.

 

off topic...does anyone have the tc strut part number?

 

left or right? it makes a difference.

TC LF strut 19181044
TC RF strut 19181043

 

thats not bad at all for those. wow. on 70 bucks a piece?

just checked actually the second is 150. the first is 70. why the difference? you said one is left and one is right... wouldnt they be the same?

 

the right ones should be almost twice the price of the left. not sure why though.

 

right. apologies for the thread jack. im going to start a new thread on this.

 

NO one side is 70 the other is like double that dont ask why. Beckmeister whats the link for the JPB bandits, and the short answer will be who did the valving and it the set up is as good as Rod's Victory Red deal it is probably junque....

dont please start a new thread this one will do if i have my way OTTP will have a conversion set soon for less money better parts than anyone

 

well ima noob when it comes to suspension so i want to see what all can be done with tc strut setup..didnt want to continue to jack this one.

 

So you live next you own shop...lol

At $1400, it is the price of KW V2. What does the Stance coilover offers that KW V2 doesn't besides "amazing", may be like separate compression/rebound damping adjustments?

If you have any data, please post.

 

my friend has stance coilovers from them for his s13 and they looked 2 be super high quality

 

JBP:http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0871

they look quality, bit that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

 

Yeah This suspension was test fitted on my car and being manufactured right now i am telling you B&G doesent compare to these not unless Tein or another company like that will make coilovers then these are the the best out there.

Coilover Features

GR+ is our main flagship line of coilovers. Oversize diameter shocks allow large pistons for ultimate performance and response. 15-way adjustable damping allows the driver to tune the shocks for any conditions and handling characteristics. With huge range of adjustment that can be felt and seen, GR+ offers serious performance for all levels of drivers. GR+ coilovers are built with highest quality materials and tolerances to ensure durability and performance.

GR+ Performance Suspension System

Features:

* Adjustment Knob 15-Way Damping Adjustable
* Upper Pillowball Bearing Adjustable Camber Uppermount
* Upper Pillowball Bearing Pillowball Uppermount
* Spring Cold Wound Linear Spring
* Monotube Inverted Monotube Shocks
* Boot Dustboot
* Collar Aluminum Collars & Upper Mounts
* Bracket Height Adjustable Lower Bracket

 

the welding is crappy, looks like it was puddled by a 5th grader....I will email you pics of good aluminum welding..

you know i read the stance site, I look at this JBP stuff, and the tech write ups turn me off (heat disappation for the rear twsting beam?who are they kidding. BS. But Bilstein make good shocks, it then becomes a question of correct damping rates, and there are maybe a half dozen folks on here who know what that means, sorry but thats the reality of it...and the aftermarket suppliers? YOu cant do the R&D and sell a kit for 700-1400 bucks and make a buck so it aintgonnahappen.com....

 

heat dissapation? what, haha i missed that.

yeah, the welds didn't look horrible to me, but then again, i really am not qualified to judge things like that, haha.