Originally Posted by tdipowered

if it is weird then you can just give it to me

Originally Posted by Maven

If oversteer scares you, you may want to seriosuly rethink the TTR rear sway bar, especially without springs and without a larger front sway bar.

The TTR bar (even the Progress bar, just to a lesser degree)on a stock FE1 car is the definition of oversteer when it comes to Cobalts.

The TTR rear bar on a stock FE1(LS/LT) car dramatically increases the stiffness in the rear of the car(thats why everyone says you can feel it as soon as you drive the car out of your drive way) This extra stiffness tends to make the Cobalt oversteer(more correctly snap oversteer, meaning its fine until its not), which is not good on the street(as you found out) Most importantly is that since the Coby is fwd and due to the suspension design it gets another very special type of handling characteristic, its called "trailing throttle oversteer" This is basically means that if the car is oversteering, when you let go of the gas it actually oversteers MORE, it doesnt correct itself......To get trailing throttle oversteer in control you need to either have room to ride out the oversteer, or get back ON the gas....neither of these scenarios are safe or effective on public roads.

So to answer your question: Yes a large rear sway bar will make your otherwise stock car handle funny.

I'd highly recommend upgrading to the Eibach Pro-Kit or SS/SC springs as your first suspension mod. Followed later by a FRONT sway bar, and THEN a rear sway bar. It will still make your car a little tailhappy, but it wont have the tendency to snap oversteer like it will on a stock car.

Springs FTW.



This only partially true....the main 2 reasons stock Cobalts have unpredictable handling(imo) is due to the absolute crap tires they have from the factory, and because they have very little caster(Ive seen new cars with as little as 2degrees caster)

Cobalts understeer, unless you hit a mid corner bump or in some other way unload the rear tires, only then will a stock Cobalt oversteer. The sway bar makes a stock Cobalt much more consistantly oversteer, leading many people to believe it cures the wonky handling, when in fact it doesnt, it just makes it nearly impossible for the car to understeer, so all you notice is the oversteer events. A bad thing?? I think so, but many others dont. No matter what your thoughts on a loose car are there is no debating the fact that a simple bolt on sway bar(any brand) isnt goin to cure the things a stock LS/LT suffers from

Originally Posted by 07BluBalt

.. my question is....is the only way to fix ita smaller bar. or could i upgrade the front sway to the FE5 front bar for some help??

Originally Posted by HunterKiller89

so maven, since this thread has been ressurected, how do u feel about eibach's front and rear sway bar?
And how difficult is the front sway bar to install? if i recall, the rear is just a bolt on piece, but i think the front had to have other components removed to reach or something?