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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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it touches it up front, i know its not actually connected, thats why i said leech.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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PsykoStevo and Gilbert were talking about drilling thier thermostats on our local site. I don't think they posted any results though.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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PsykoStevo and Gilbert were talking about drilling thier thermostats on our local site. I don't think they posted any results though.
Gilbert dropped ~10*, I have yet to do mine. Combination of Laziness and being out of town.

Drilled 3 small holes in the thermostat.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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heh i got a bad one in my truck, i put in a stant 180 today, and it runs a consistant 5 deg.F higher than the 195 stocker, go figure. im going on holidays in 2 weeks, so i have to concentrate on killing the knock in my truck first, and no i didnt tune it. was done 4 years ago. omfg.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Talking Tune

Originally Posted by Psykostevo
Still running well Kaisoboy?
Hey Steve. Yep the car runs great. We tinkered with the tune some. One thing I noticed was the LTFT was a little high. Should it not be in the +2 to -2 range on exceleration or WOT? It seems to be in the +5 to +8 range.

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Hey what is you local web-site?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaisoboy
Hey Steve. Yep the car runs great. We tinkered with the tune some. One thing I noticed was the LTFT was a little high. Should it not be in the +2 to -2 range on exceleration or WOT? It seems to be in the +5 to +8 range.

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Hey what is you local web-site?
weather temps, and other factors play hell with the cars. it's just compensation.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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well i believe them but its also got to be some thing else. cause ask any one i run 12.8 a/fs to get my 260+ Whp on a 3inch pulley. matter fact i was about to go try and put down 270 on the same a/f. its not suposed to run like this but it does. which means the heat from a smaller pulley must also be whats granading that cyl not just cause you have an a/f higher than 11.2
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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well i believe them but its also got to be some thing else. cause ask any one i run 12.8 a/fs to get my 260+ Whp on a 3inch pulley. matter fact i was about to go try and put down 270 on the same a/f. its not suposed to run like this but it does. which means the heat from a smaller pulley must also be whats granading that cyl not just cause you have an a/f higher than 11.2
holy crap batman.

well i guess i have no room to talk. i did the same thing just to see if i could.

heat plays a huge factor in it. id be really curious to see what your egt's look like after a 0-105 mph sprint
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
holy crap batman.

well i guess i have no room to talk. i did the same thing just to see if i could.

heat plays a huge factor in it. id be really curious to see what your egt's look like after a 0-105 mph sprint
My IAT's hit 240 once i'll leave the rest to your imagination. also my a/fs see 13's at 7200 redline. I short shift at 65 unless i need to wield it
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Darksun
My IAT's hit 240 once i'll leave the rest to your imagination. also my a/fs see 13's at 7200 redline. I short shift at 65 unless i need to wield it

thats cookin!

if i ever come to a meet that you are at. im bringin some bacon
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Mmmmm...bacon!!!!
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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omg, i logged today going to work, with a LM-1 and a tail sniffer, lol 10.2 afr.
i leave more black clouds behind me than a scared supercharged squid!
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by firestorm
omg, i logged today going to work, with a LM-1 and a tail sniffer, lol 10.2 afr.
i leave more black clouds behind me than a scared supercharged squid!
take that number, {if you have a cat} subtract about .4 off it.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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zzp catless, was too lazy to put it on the hoist and plug in on the DP. still rich as a bitch.
to be sure, my LM-1 is a not whacked i had a buddy run his on his car, and then mine to coinfirm accuracy.
was the same.

p.s. area, i see you on hpt forums under same name. I'm Fire there.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Talking Squid

Originally Posted by firestorm
omg, i logged today going to work, with a LM-1 and a tail sniffer, lol 10.2 afr.
i leave more black clouds behind me than a scared supercharged squid!
I have noticed quite a few guys around here with the same broblem. The 2.85 43 lb tune that I have in my car fixed that problem for me. Squid...I'll take mine as Calamari please.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by firestorm
zzp catless, was too lazy to put it on the hoist and plug in on the DP. still rich as a bitch.
to be sure, my LM-1 is a not whacked i had a buddy run his on his car, and then mine to coinfirm accuracy.
was the same.

p.s. area, i see you on hpt forums under same name. I'm Fire there.
i don't post over there unless i have too. hence the 06 vs 07 question
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by firestorm
omg, i logged today going to work, with a LM-1 and a tail sniffer, lol 10.2 afr.
i leave more black clouds behind me than a scared supercharged squid!
Lol, i'm also pinned at 10.2 under WOT. Super rich.

I need a winter tune and a summer tune cause it's like night and day.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Lol, i'm also pinned at 10.2 under WOT. Super rich.

I need a winter tune and a summer tune cause it's like night and day.
yepo, that is what everone needs.

wierd thing being, my car leans out the colder it gets. this is not normal.

when it's about 80+ degree's, it runs 11.3
when it's below 70. its around 11.6
not good!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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my winter ride is a safari AWD w/studded grips. the poor balt hasnt seen too many snowflakes. it is such a POS in the snow. i had to pull it out into the lot a couple times during the winter to fit cars in the shop, and it gets stuck in 1 " of snow. damn pirellis.
it got to the point i would hook a tow rope onto it and back it out, cause for sure id have to tow it back in, lol.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yepo, that is what everone needs.

wierd thing being, my car leans out the colder it gets. this is not normal.

when it's about 80+ degree's, it runs 11.3
when it's below 70. its around 11.6
not good!
That is normall. Colder air is denser meaning you need to compensate by adding more fuel. Why do you think most of the motors blew in the colder climates?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
That is normall. Colder air is denser meaning you need to compensate by adding more fuel. Why do you think most of the motors blew in the colder climates?
Thats true in a speed density setup where people have removed IAT sensors.

Your MAF will compensate for air temperature when reporting back a frequency to the PCM.

Engines will pop in colder climates due to increasing amounts of air entering the cylinders resulting in higher cylinder pressure, not an air/fuel issue, at least on these car's stock engine management system.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Witt
Thats true in a speed density setup where people have removed IAT sensors.

Your MAF will compensate for air temperature when reporting back a frequency to the PCM.

Engines will pop in colder climates due to increasing amounts of air entering the cylinders resulting in higher cylinder pressure, not an air/fuel issue, at least on these car's stock engine management system.
it does to a degree, this car is odd. every car in the past that i have owned, has richened up on its own. like any normal mas air car should. nope. not a cobalt.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yepo, that is what everone needs.

wierd thing being, my car leans out the colder it gets. this is not normal.

when it's about 80+ degree's, it runs 11.3
when it's below 70. its around 11.6
not good!
Yeah man, when it's hot like 90-95 degrees and AIT2s are around 130-135 my AFR is pinned at 10.2 through 6,800rpm.

When it's cooler like 60 degrees and AIT2s are around 90 i'm right where i should be like 11.3ish.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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went through this entire thread and havent found a direct answer...

What a/f does the stock tune command on the '06?

What a/f does the GM stage 2 command on the '06?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bika
went through this entire thread and havent found a direct answer...

What a/f does the stock tune command on the '06?

What a/f does the GM stage 2 command on the '06?
wide open or part throttle.
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