Is it possible to run too much timing? I mean I understand that if you run too much timng without the proper stuff like octane of gas, meth injection, etc. you will get knock. But what i'm asking is say if I can run like 30 degrees of timing with no problems.....is there such thing as running too much timing?

The reason why i'm asking, is that when I get my meth injection kit, I want to try and get 27 degrees out of her with 100 octane....I mean, from what I can see, I think it's possible, and I think she'd be PRETTY quick running on 27

 

anything above 26 degrees really doesn't help much.

 

Alright thanks, yeah I thought I heard that somewhere but wasn't sure.

 

What exactly are you guys talking about here?? You have 27 degrees of timing at WOT? If that is the case I would REALLY like to see your log files. Send em my way

briansailor@gmail.com

 

once I download everything to my desktop, I was running 24 degrees (meth inj wasn't working) on a mix of pump and regular. Once I bumped to 26 I started getting KR..

 

I still don't understand what you guys are talking about. So I am going to clarify for you. The picture I am linking to is a timing table for a SS/SC cobalt. So what exactly are you guys talking about?

 

Once you get meth, from 3k to 7k and from .60Gcyl to 1.12 Gcyl airmass youll be able to have a constant 21 to 25 degrees. Not all those weir jumpy numbers.

 

what he said ^^^^^^^
I"ll post up a screen shot a bit later.... doing some video editing right now

 

On my 100 octane tune, I can run 22-23 degrees of timing at WOT. I wanna bump it up to 27 when I get my meth injection while using the 100 and see how she moves.

Oh Paul, I need to pick your brain about meth injection. Next time you're online, i'm gonna start firing questions at you. Well, I only have like 2-3 questions lol.

Here's my 100 octane timing table by the way

 

Anyone have a timing table to share for comparision for a 2.6 w/o meth injection?

 

How can you tell exatly what your timing is with all those #'s. I have HP but know nothing about it. Have alot to learn. Thanks
Joe

 

There is a point where increasing timing actually will lose you power. The best way to tune timing is on a dyno. I know on my cavalier I could run 28 degrees of timing on my race gas tune, but actually the car began losing power over 25. Has anyone dynoed with the meth and increased timing tables to see what the difference is? I'm very curious

 

yup above 25-26 degrees is about the limit for these cars... thats what I run on meth..
sucked my meth was out and on 110 Octane I could only run 22 degrees of timing with no knock

and adam... hit me up on AIM or Pm those questions. I"ll be around

 

That timing table has no slight increase at all! It's like BAM 23* out of no where! Is it good to run a table that looks like that? Shouldn't it be smoothed? This is one of the areas I'm still a little rough with. I have the meth now, so I'm ready to crank up the timing since I'm sitting at 15* at the highest currently.

I have no damn traction now in first or second, I can only imaging what another 8-10* of timing is going to do for me!

 

Hell yeah! I like it as a BAM IN YO FACE NUKKA! lol umm you can do it either way. I have no problems with the jump to 23. I have tried the gradual increase, and both work fine...but I like to have it hit full

 

I do remember someone telling me what the upper limit is on timing from a physics perspective but ill be damned if i can remember.

When calculating total timing advance remember there are iat ect and other adders that come into play.

Protip...ramp timing in slower and you can run more timing at wot.

 

I was just going to say that witt... the #'s in the high octane table are not the end result for timing. You have to account for IAT spark, ECT spark... etc