kikal8

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OK.. so ive got an 06 ss sc with an aem cai, soon to have gm stage 2, and a bad mab header, with a downpipe and catback. dunno what yet but ya. what can i expect out of the tune? im probobly gonna go with trifecta for the main reason i dont know of any tuners around here and i dont wanna do it myself and **** **** up haha.

idk if this is enough information for people to help me. but basically im looking for people with a similar setup to tell me what they pull now.

thanks guys

ULWizSS

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Gonna be in the 250 to 260 range for hp. Tune will wake it up a great bit. GM2 tune will run dead rich at WOT need someone to tune it and lean it out to our 11.7ish range.

Enjoy buddy

kikal8

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haha nice ill be up to a turbo one at that point. ha still pretty sick. but that sounds right. i figured it would be somewhere around there. thanks man

ssblackstealth

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most you will see out of a tune, intake, dp, exhaust, and gm stage 2 will be 230 give or take

kikal8

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well thats not very good. ha. how could that be true? i feel with an exhaust and intake the car would be pushing 215 or more as it is. how could a tune for bigger injectors, and smaller pulley only boost me 15 more hp. ha that blows. that wouldnt be worth the 500 dollars or howevermuch it is

defo98

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go a different route zzp stage 3, ottp stage 2 cheaper and better then the gm kit

kikal8

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ya. the only thing is if i ever sell the car i want a car that the kid that would probobly be wanting the to like and the parent of the little douche to not be afraid theyre buying a car that has been beat to **** and if it blows up in 2 days they are fucked. i like the idea of the warranty. the only thing i do not like is the fact that gm's stage 2 only comes with what? a 3.0 pulley? to big ha. and 42 inj? not horrible i couldve delt. idk. might be a deciding factor if i find out what id be getting with the zzp or ottp stage kits.

and not for nothing but how would those be cheaper. the zzp you need to buy like allllll of the little **** to go with it so that it doesnt blow you ******* car up haha. if i remember right that **** was realllyyy expensive when it all added up. and ottp i havent even looked at there ****. but i couldve sworn they predict like 236 hp after the stage 2 kit they have when the gm stage 2 pushed wat? 253?

poundz9oh9

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Holy Engrish skills Batman .... ugh

kikal8

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hhahaha my bad. but you get what im sayinggg

punksk8ter62

I have gms2 on my cobalt. Injen cai and zzp catless dp and made 238 hp 218 tq on a dynojet if that gives u an idea.

ULWizSS

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I was 2.9,intake,dp and GM2 and put down 244/225

kikal8

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thank u guys. looks like ill be going zzp. but what would i push after a tune with the zzp stage 3

ssblackstealth

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because my old car (06 ss/sc) made 238 whp with a trifecta tune, 60s, 2.8(which is smaller than the gm stage 2), heat exchanger, dual pass, full 3in exhaust, vibrant 4-2-1 header, catless dp, 3in intake...

my buddies car right now: 05 ss/sc 232whp with hp tune, 2.8, 60s, header, dp, full magnaflow exhaust, 3in intake, heat exchanger

so theres no way ur car with smaller injectors and smaller pully will make 240-250whp.....and 230 or so isnt bad at all man thats good for those mods! if you want about 240whp you shouldnt waste ur money on the gm stage kit and get a zzp stage kit or ottp stage kit cause they both have 60lbs injectors and a 2.8 pully..and you have no cooling mods on ur car hardly so thats gunna effect ur numbers that much more

ssblackstealth

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your not gms2 if ur on a 2.9 pully, srry

kikal8

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well thank u very much guys. thats y i love this site. some people are *****.. but for the most part i ask a question and someone comes through with an answer to help me. thank u.

defo98

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$540= GM kit
$319=ottp kit which comes with higher flowing injectors and a smaller pulley and the tune is better then gms2 tune.

So yes its cheaper and your getting more out of it. Also you can add a heat exchanger for $125 which still makes it cheaper then the gm kit.

defo98

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and i was on a 2.8, 60's with not cooling mods for a few months and never had a problem with heat granted the temps were in the 50-60 degree range. If it was the summer I would be more worried but you can survive for now.

kikal8

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well ill be able to afford it. its more i want the car to be safe while running and not be to much for the car to take. ha but now what do you guys recommend? zzp stage 3 or ottp stage 2?

defo98

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I am pleased with my ottp stage 2 even the canned tune I got was fairly strong. but I waited close to 2 1/2 months for it. Ive heard good reviews on zzp stage 3 too. So either one its up to you

kikal8

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thanks man. ive heard good things about both. i had a buddy who had an ion redline with like alllll zzp stuff. he spoke very highly of them. he was a mechanic to so i guess it was requitable haha.

defo98

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yeah both companies are good so its just a matter of preference

kikal8

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alright man. thanks again.

im still waiting for someone to give me a response on what my specs would be after a trifecta tune with one of these kits.

defo98

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on a 2.8 I would say in the 240whp range give or take and more if you get a better exhaust

kikal8

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well im thinking about getting a borla catback. and the bad mab header and downpipe idk. maybe just a zzp downpipe.

defo98

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i have the borla 2.5 and I like it. I know someone on the site who just installed his badmab header and it reduced his 60-100 so thats a good route to go