will i was coming home form my sisters house around 8pm and this mustang flys up and slams on his brakes when he see my car. so I speed up and get next to him and he just guns it so I gun it. (o i have intense stage 3 on my car just so you know) will any way i start pulling and when I shift 4 I am like a car and a half ahead, but then the light turned red and I had to slam on the brakes. but then I tried to race him off the line and and I had nothing but wheel spin (dam front wheel drive) and he just takes off and then I get in the Michigan Left and go home.

Shermen

 

nice kills,you should get the ingells etd

 

that would not help with wheel spin. it is raining out any way so no way i would have hooked up. but i do have bwoody mounts sitting in a box waiting for a day im not doing anthing.

 

how are you likin that stage 3? do you feel like that was a better choice than the gm stage 2? how much did the install run? thanks

 

Nice kill Shermen! I always love to see the face of a mustang or a cobra crying when a Cobalt SS/SC beats them. Because everyone knows the Cobalt is a under dog and who makes history best? The under dogs when they win! Hellz yea!

 

Good racing.
Find that dude again and get some video.

 

I love the stage 3, but it through this dam code because it cold. but it is way better than gm stage 2 i have beaten 2 gm stage 2's one cobalt and one redline. i did the install my self and have no clue what that would run call a local shop. and you really only need the pulley installed the injectors and the computer you should be able to manage (even if your not maniacally inclined).

would but i dont won a camera!!! only got a picture one.

 

I think Intense stg4 puts out 10 more horse than gmSTG2. I laugh when guys put aftermarket parts on a car from Joe Blow and Bros. Inc. It's funny to think that the engineers at GMPP are going to be outdone by some ****-ant litte tuner company. Think about it. If the designers at "Joe Blows" were any good, they'd be working for GM, or Mopar, or Ford. Were talking a GM here fellas. The best racing techs. in the world work for automobile manufactures, not automobile parts manufactures. I say stick with the parts that are made for the car, by the people who make the car. Makes sense, don't ya think?

 

couple questions...
i have stage 2 s/c... i would love it more than to upgrade
1. what clutch is needed (i blew out the stock clutch a week after the stage 2 s/c installed... and gm says its my fault??)
2. what psi and HP is it pushing?
3. are u using the 60's injectors?
4. where can i get the pully.... how much?
thankss!!!

so what your saying is the stage 2 s/c, which is only punching out 240/ 250 hp to the crank on a good day. vs somthing thats pushing 340-360 to the wheels with a stage 4
is 10 more hp? damn and all this time i was taught wrong in math you cleared it up for me!


btw gm f*cked the car.... the stock cluch handles up to a max of 210 torque when the gmstg2 is pushing 225... 240(WOT) so if gm are the best racing techs... some one didnt do their home work when the design'd our clutch...

and besides... after market parts is what makes your car shiney....

 

Don't be a smart ass. I guess we just got different info. It happens. I may have my numbers wrong, but my point remains the same. And your probably right, I'm sure GM contracts out their race car project to other people who know more than they do, like Jose down at the race shop. Thats why their so sucessful. Could you also show me where the instese dyno numbers are posted? There are Cobalts with over 1000hp with every part from the GMPP catalogue. And GM can't put HD parts on a econo box, like clutches, and dampers, etc. and make it cost effective.

 

Man just dont post anymore, you sound like you dont know what you are talking about. Seriously. Intense has been around for a long tine. I think you are mad that your stg 2 got beat by an intense car. The stage 2 is straight up SLOW. Im sorry.

 

And just for the record, members of this sight who have Intense Stage 4 and several other mods, are claiming 260hp and 245 ft/lbs, just so you know! I guess your math was wrong? Have some humble pie!

Atually I'm stock.

 

wow 350 whp on an intense stage 4? im sure that kit is great but be real. for the record im gonna go for gm s2 but thats only because my car is leased and i dont think it would be smart to go aftermarket.

 

Thanksyou!

 

1000hp?
i would love to see a front wheel car with 1000hp
oh and im sorry the 350 to the wheels was the stage 5....
the stage 4 is 350 to the crank ruffly

okay stage 3 and stage 4 srt4? those are known to blow way over 300 hp to teh wheels explain that?
im pushing 15 psi with my gm stg2 and the stage 4 is pushing 25 psi... do the math
and b4 u do the stage 2 upgrade. i suggest getting a clutch

 

Yes the engineers are going to be out done by alot of performance part makers and tuners. Thats why companys like Intense, Accufab, Magnaflow, ect are around and a making a killing off their parts. Thats also why car companies seend out new cars before release to performace shops so they can design aftermarket parts for the car before it comes out.

GM doesnt really have any "racing" designers, they have no specialty team that designs this stuff like Ford (SVT/FRPP) and Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep(SRT/Mopar). SVT and SRT is a group that all they do is desgin performance cars and parts.

 

Too much misconception here....

GM Stage 2 = 230 whp - 240whp (nothing else on the car)

Intense Stage 3 = rated 250-260whp, nothing else on the car except Exhaust I think

 

i always thought that GM's answer to the SVT/SRT teams was the GM Performace Devision....after all, thats where the SS/SC comes from...just look under the hood. just a thought

 

There are two I believe racing in NHRA FWD pro/outlaw class. And dominating. 1000hp cobalts are out there. So if you would love to see one, just look!

There are two I believe racing in NHRA FWD pro/outlaw class. And dominating. 1000+hp cobalts are out there. Not only are they 1000+hp, but they burn up the quarter at over 200mph, and between 7.5 & 8.0 seconds.

and they are the echotech. Not a big block, or a hemi, there four bangers

 

yeah thats what i always thought to

 

holy ****
i wish my car was pushing 230 WHP
im pushing 250 to the crank barely on 18 inch rims
go figure?

 

have you ever heard of a dyno tune? The gm stage tunes are very safe because they have to be so they can maintain the factory warranty. If you can get a dyno tune with aftermarket parts it WILL put down more power. Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about here, and coming in here with 9 posts and claiming to know better than the entire aftermarket community is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. You don't think accufab or linginfelter put down more power per dollar than gm or ford could in a factory car? Well they do, by a long shot. It's because they can do it for cheaper and they can concentrate more on each car specifically (every car is different and different conditions exist everywhere, which is why a dynotune is always a great mod).

ok, it's ecotec and they share very little with any of the production ecotecs.

 

Yea but I have to say its not on the scale of SVT/SRT. You see and hear about the two all the time, how many times do you hear about GM Division. Im not saying its bad but its just not near as big or well known as the other two. Hell SVT had one of the greatest performance designers on its team , Mr John Colletti and on top of him SVT worked alot with Roush.

 

yeah, you have a point...SVT is deff more well known and has way more resources im sure. But at least GM is trying to follow up with something, you gotta give them credit.

 

GM doesnt really have any "racing" designers, they have no specialty team that designs this stuff like Ford (SVT/FRPP) and Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep(SRT/Mopar). SVT and SRT is a group that all they do is desgin performance cars and parts.[/QUOTE]


thats wrong..the SS badges are "General motors performence division" i know i have a badge under my hood, i think the SS Impala and Monte's have them too.