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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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06 ss/sc vs 01 mustang gt- 1/8 mile

me and my friend both bought cars last satrday. i bought a 06 ss/sc and he bought a 01 mustang gt. ever since we got them he hasnt stopped talking **** on how he would win in a race. i told him we would race at the strip here this weekend its 1/8 mile. we both have 5 speeds who do you think should win. i know i could beat him in the 1/4 but what about 1/8 seeing he has a slight advantage with the rwd.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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I think you'll take him if you don't smoke the tires off the line.

What dealership did you buy yours from? Was it the one at Marathon Chevrolet? I have the first and only other silver SS/SC w/ G85 here in North Charleston. Mine is spoilerless though. If your going to race Friday, I may have to stop by. I'm not running though until my new clutch is in. Are you racing at Lowcountry or Dorchester dragway? PM me if you'd like.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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me and my friend both bought cars last satrday. i bought a 06 ss/sc and he bought a 01 mustang gt. ever since we got them he hasnt stopped talking **** on how he would win in a race. i told him we would race at the strip here this weekend its 1/8 mile. we both have 5 speeds who do you think should win. i know i could beat him in the 1/4 but what about 1/8 seeing he has a slight advantage with the rwd.
You KNOW you can win in the 1/4? My friend's 5-speed '01 GT went 14.1@99 bone stock, his first time to the track with it... and my GT went 14.2@100 with a crappy 60'. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

BTW, no ones gonna be able to tell you who WILL win this race... it's too dang close.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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It's going to be real tough in the 1/8th mile on stock rubber. He will definitely have the advantage, but if you can keep that 60ft down you'll have a good fighting chance.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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It's going to be real tough in the 1/8th mile on stock rubber. He will definitely have the advantage, but if you can keep that 60ft down you'll have a good fighting chance.
Basically, what Tofu's saying is... drive like him.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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in the 1/8th mile, I doubt it. I'd definitely give it to the GT

SS/SC's have to make up for the lack of traction/good launch in the 1/4 thats why you see 14.8's @99mph
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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i know your cobalt is s/c but that doesnt mean you can beat alot of people, i mean a mustang gt is low 14's stock 01 style, just gotta watch what cars you wanna play with when your ss s/c is stock.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Get An Intake And You'll Probably Beat Him!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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they trap within 1-2mph stock though...but RWD > FWD so the SS/SC will run slower times.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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in the 1/8th mile, I doubt it. I'd definitely give it to the GT

SS/SC's have to make up for the lack of traction/good launch in the 1/4 thats why you see 14.8's @99mph
not really bc i done better times than any stock mustag i seen gts do like around 9.4 to 9.5 my friend happen to have one and i driven his and i cant do better than 9.5 they spin their tires o lot and if your friend is better driver than you he will beat you is all about the driver!!!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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k thanks for the input well have to see. im still getting used to the car alittle and so is he i raced him from a 25 roll and it was dead even with me hitting redline in 2nd.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I think you'll take him if you don't smoke the tires off the line.

What dealership did you buy yours from? Was it the one at Marathon Chevrolet? I have the first and only other silver SS/SC w/ G85 here in North Charleston. Mine is spoilerless though. If your going to race Friday, I may have to stop by. I'm not running though until my new clutch is in. Are you racing at Lowcountry or Dorchester dragway? PM me if you'd like.
yeah it was marathon chevrolet of norht charleston. sales guy was pretty cool hes x airforce. i dunno when were gonna do it i still gotta finish my break in only at 200 miles right now. ive only seen one other ss/sc down here so far theres a guy on site with a black one i parked right next to him . he cant drive worth crap though saw him stall it twice at one light.

how are they with the whole modification and warenty thing?

and what track are around here i know theres one in charleston some where... where and lengths?
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Old May 4, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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The there are two black ones. The one that was at the dealership sold just before yours got there. Lowcountry dragway is the closest. It's an 1/8 mile. All quarter mile tracks are farther away. Rick hendrick is better with the mod thing. The service manager at Marathon in North Charleston is a complete ******** if something goes wrong with your car though. i.e. my motor blew because of a faulity rocker arm form the factory, ans he triied to blame the **** on me, but my car was stock. Anyhow.. I got that all sussed out alright. I got them to warranty my GM Stage 2 even know I put it in myself, so that was cool. The parts guy there is the man. If you have any more questions please let me know.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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well im not to worried i already got here nuts in a wrench as it is. they put one of them dumb decals on when i bought it and when i told them to take it off they fucked up my paint. im talkin scratch down to the metal... so needless to say they already owe me a new paintjob on my trunk.

they also fucked up and threw out the window sticker when there supposed to put it in the glove box. i need it for insurance so i went in and bitched them out for that too.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Not the brightest group that works there. Rick hendrick is ten times better when it comes to service.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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not really bc i done better times than any stock mustag i seen gts do like around 9.4 to 9.5 my friend happen to have one and i driven his and i cant do better than 9.5 they spin their tires o lot and if your friend is better driver than you he will beat you is all about the driver!!!
99-04s run quicker than 9.4-9.5 stock. Whoever you were watching was either in a 96-98 or couldnt drive for ****. If the tires are spinning that bad, its the driver.

But you are right, its a drivers race.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Mines_Better ran some Mustangs that were newer than 01 in the 1/8 mile. And you are right that they get you off the line, but by the time the 1/8th came around, he was already almost a full car length past them. I'll never forget the owner of that 03 GT asking us, "What the hell you guys got in that thing?" He didn't look too pleased when we told him it was completely stock

Oh and go easy on the clutch. I wouldn't launch at anything over 2K unless you plan on buying a new clutch anyways.........
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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While I know from personal experience that a stock SS will *slightly* pull a stock GT from a highway roll, there is little chance that you will be able to beat one from a dig, especially an 1/8 one.

The 1/4 will be close, but given equal, average drivers, a GT should still win in the 1/4, although the traps will probably be identical.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
While I know from personal experience that a stock SS will *slightly* pull a stock GT from a highway roll, there is little chance that you will be able to beat one from a dig, especially an 1/8 one.

The 1/4 will be close, but given equal, average drivers, a GT should still win in the 1/4, although the traps will probably be identical.

I notice you said "personal experience" but I don't see 'Cobalt SS/SC or Ion Red Line or any LSJ vehicle in your sig. At what level is your personal experience? Mine is at the track filming Mines_Better's run vs the Mustang GT, and my own experience with my LSJ powered Red Line running the same Mustangs on the same track with the occassional entanglement on the street/road.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TXRLU
I notice you said "personal experience" but I don't see 'Cobalt SS/SC or Ion Red Line or any LSJ vehicle in your sig. At what level is your personal experience? Mine is at the track filming Mines_Better's run vs the Mustang GT, and my own experience with my LSJ powered Red Line running the same Mustangs on the same track with the occassional entanglement on the street/road.
So in your personaly experience against one or two mustangs, you/mines_better had them by a car length at the 1/8 mile? So that means any stock cobalt will beat any stock mustang by 1 car length in the 1/8? Im not doubting your encounters with these guys, but Im telling you straight up, in my personal experience, its a drivers race between the two cars, both being stock, with the advantage going to the GT.

At the track I go to I raced a stock SS/SC (Im hoping he was stock) a few weeks ago and he ran a 10.06 1/8. Does that mean all SS/SCs run 10.0 1/8ths? I hope not. If you want I can post a slip of an 02 GT with weld-in Flowmasters and a K&N filter running a 9.26 that same weekend. The guy who owns it bought it used that day and it still had dealership stickers in the window. He normally bracket races a 92 Fox body w/built 351 that runs mid 7's in the 1/8th, so its safe to say he can drive. A 9.26 isnt bad at all considering it was his first ever pass in that car, being its a 5-speed and his Fox has a C-4 Auto in it.

Now, you can go on thinking an SS/SC will put a car length on a GT stock for stock in the 1/8th all you want, I just find it interesting how most stock GT's are running 14.0-14.2 with a handful hitting 13.9x every blue moon, while most stock SS/SC's are running mid-high 14s in the 1/4, with a few hitting low 14s. Interesting indeed.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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boo on the 1/8th, I wanna see 1/4 times...hehe
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Old May 6, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TXRLU
I notice you said "personal experience" but I don't see 'Cobalt SS/SC or Ion Red Line or any LSJ vehicle in your sig. At what level is your personal experience? Mine is at the track filming Mines_Better's run vs the Mustang GT, and my own experience with my LSJ powered Red Line running the same Mustangs on the same track with the occassional entanglement on the street/road.
My friend has a 02 Mustang GT and I was racing a Cobalt SS/SC a while ago. I was driving and we did a bunch of runs.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by helty
So in your personaly experience against one or two mustangs, you/mines_better had them by a car length at the 1/8 mile? So that means any stock cobalt will beat any stock mustang by 1 car length in the 1/8? Im not doubting your encounters with these guys, but Im telling you straight up, in my personal experience, its a drivers race between the two cars, both being stock, with the advantage going to the GT.

At the track I go to I raced a stock SS/SC (Im hoping he was stock) a few weeks ago and he ran a 10.06 1/8. Does that mean all SS/SCs run 10.0 1/8ths? I hope not. If you want I can post a slip of an 02 GT with weld-in Flowmasters and a K&N filter running a 9.26 that same weekend. The guy who owns it bought it used that day and it still had dealership stickers in the window. He normally bracket races a 92 Fox body w/built 351 that runs mid 7's in the 1/8th, so its safe to say he can drive. A 9.26 isnt bad at all considering it was his first ever pass in that car, being its a 5-speed and his Fox has a C-4 Auto in it.

Now, you can go on thinking an SS/SC will put a car length on a GT stock for stock in the 1/8th all you want, I just find it interesting how most stock GT's are running 14.0-14.2 with a handful hitting 13.9x every blue moon, while most stock SS/SC's are running mid-high 14s in the 1/4, with a few hitting low 14s. Interesting indeed.
I think you argued for me the very message I was trying to convey to Gloveperson. He said he had personal experience regarding an SS/SC and a Mustang GT. Where he's shown that he's had success against an SS/SC I've shown that I have had success versus Mustang GTs (Mines_Better has also had success and time-slips to prove this success). I think aruing which one is faster is a Moot point. What surprises me is how quick everyone is to call BS on here when someone claims to beat an <05 Mustang GT as if the Mustang were some 1000 HP monster. On the road or track, if everything always panned out according to magazine specs, then why would anyone bother lining them up?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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I think you argued for me the very message I was trying to convey to Gloveperson. He said he had personal experience regarding an SS/SC and a Mustang GT. Where he's shown that he's had success against an SS/SC I've shown that I have had success versus Mustang GTs (Mines_Better has also had success and time-slips to prove this success). I think aruing which one is faster is a Moot point. What surprises me is how quick everyone is to call BS on here when someone claims to beat an <05 Mustang GT as if the Mustang were some 1000 HP monster. On the road or track, if everything always panned out according to magazine specs, then why would anyone bother lining them up?
I straight up said it was a drivers race with a slight edge going to the GT. I never said the GT would walk away. But a stock Cobalt putting a car length on a stock GT by the 1/8th is driver error on the GTs side plain and simple. You cant expect every race against a Mustang to happen like that, which is the way you came off in your original post, thats all.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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You did notice that I was replying to Gloveperson's post when I asked him about his personal experience right? I didn't know if he owned an SS/SC or if someone he knew owned one. My main point is that you can't go by a few encounters. Me saying that I've pulled a few times on a Mustang GT is demonstrating that it CAN and HAS happened. I think we're arguing the same thing but from different vantage points. Hell I've been at a stop light next to a mini-van that pulled on me, of course the mini-van was trying to change lanes, and I wasn't really paying attention initially, so technically it was a win for the Mini-van. But having said that I will still stick to my statement regarding why people think the Mustang GTs are the end-all, be-all of go-fast. If it was a McLaren then I could understand, but its not.......
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