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06 SS/SC VS. 96ish Modded Mustang Cobra

Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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06 SS/SC VS. 96ish Modded Mustang Cobra

Well I heard the stang come up behind me and it sounded really good. I pulled up at the light and had no intentions on racing. He took off and got on it a little, so I caught up. We turned the corner and I paced him. I was around 40-50mph (our sweet spot) and he wanted to go, so he downshifted and gave me the look. I downshifted into second he got the jump and we were off. I pulled back the slight gain he got from the jump when he shifted, and I got into 3rd fast as hell and kept pulling. It was real close, but I nudged him out by a nose length by the time we let off because of traffic up ahead. I couldn't believe it myself, but I had won! He pulled into the same parking lot with me and he gave me props for the victory. ne: Come to find out he had about 300 ponies under the hood! Definately made my night!
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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if he had about 300 then he must suck at driving.
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but according to atleast 90% of Mustang drivers, they all have "300 ponies" under the hood Good job with the win, but dont be disappointed if you lose to a similiar car with a better driver next time
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Nice kill. A '96 Cobra should be faster, but anything can happen, and the better driver prevailed. Again, nice run.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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'96-'98 cobra's had 305hp stock, and run about a 14.0 flat on average. Nice kill and believable..especially if it's an all original stock motor.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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A 14.0 for a 96-98 Cobra is above average. Usually they are in the mid to high 14's.

The 99+ N/A Cobras are better than the 96-98 and are in the high 13's at best.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Also keep in mind that a 9 year old Ford engine probably isn't gonna be putting out its original hp
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stic5
Also keep in mind that a 9 year old Ford engine probably isn't gonna be putting out its original hp


I guess you're implying that your average Chevy engine is going to make stock power longer than a HAND-BUILT Cobra engine?
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Nice Kill, but Cobras from 40-100 are really friggin fast. I doubt it was a Cobra, maybe a Mustang with alot of Mods, but a Cobra is hard to beleive.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang


I guess you're implying that your average Chevy engine is going to make stock power longer than a HAND-BUILT Cobra engine?
I read that as an old motor is more likely to put out less horsepower than it origianlly did as is the case with most engines regardless of if they are ford, chevy, doge, handbuilt ect
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Age has nothing to do with it, mileage does. And Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that the engine in that car probably does not have 70k+ miles on it, which when a motor usually starts to degrade in performance. But to say a motor is down on power because its a whopping 9 yrs old is rediculous
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Yes the DOHC Mustangs are quick from a roll but only compared to a SOHC.

The early DOHC are still a good match for a SS/SC from a roll.

The N/A DOHC wasn't a real threat in stock form until the solid axle Mach1.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Blainestang


I guess you're implying that your average Chevy engine is going to make stock power longer than a HAND-BUILT Cobra engine?
My best friends dad is a supervisor at Fords Cleveland engine plant, Cobra engines are not hand built!!!
edit:I was not thinking right, let me pull my head from my ace and say sorry Blainstang you are correct.
P.S. I did not delete the whole post because I hate when people are wrong and just try to hide it.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick007
My best friends dad is a supervisor at Fords Cleveland engine plant, Cobra engines are not hand built!!! ...hand built
Hmmm, a minute of research brought this up.....
At Ford Motor Co., there's a variation on the theme. The process at Ford's “niche” engine-assembly line on the site of its giant Romeo, MI, engine plant, is “Two Men, One Engine.”

With products from Ford's Special Vehicle Team suspended until a new SVT Shelby Cobra GT500 variant of the '05 Mustang is launched, 2-man teams on the niche engine line — only nine technicians in all — assemble just one engine: the supercharged 5.4L DOHC V-8 for the GT supercar.

The 22,000 sq.-ft. (2,044 sq.-m) niche line also built, starting in 1996, the supercharged 4.6L DOHC V-8 for the Mustang Cobra SVT until the car's temporary discontinuation last year. With the GT's V-8 currently its only output, this specialized operation assembles about 1,200 engines annually.

Each GT engine takes about 2.5 hours to build up from bare block and heads, Mike Eller, team manager on the niche engine line, told Ward's last year.

The 2-technician teams push each V-8 through a series of 12 stations, and when it's finished, you guessed it — a shiny aluminum plate inscribed with the name of both engine builders is affixed to the engine.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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actually my first run at fireturd here in phx was against a cobra late model before this latest redisgn ... I heard him talking to some guys while we were waiting for the racing to begin and he mentioned he was 330 hp ... i was 3rd in line in the lineup so the cars were pretty cool when we went got started from the cold air ... i got HORRIBLE wheel spin and hop during that run and he got the jump on me and when I hooked up I was a half a car length away from him ... during most of the 1/4 mile he was beyond reach until 3rd gear when I started gaining ground on him and ended up close to his tail end if not right at it

Edit* needless to say i was shocked and actually called my gf before the race to tell her the racing had started and that I was going against a cobra for my first run
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Proves the point I made earlier about Mustang guys.....
I hate to break it to you, but according to atleast 90% of Mustang drivers, they all have "300 ponies" under the hood
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GTPsRule
Hmmm, a minute of research brought this up.....
You must have been typing that while I was editing. As I said I mis-understood for a second, thanx though for your "one minute of research"
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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No problem
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GTPsRule
Proves the point I made earlier about Mustang guys.....

Yes, but '96+ cobra's REALLY DO have over 300hp.
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Maybe at the flywheel on a engine dyno.

I have all of the 1996-1997 Camaro/Firebird/Cobra tests and the 285HP LT1's ate the Cobras alive.
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Maybe at the flywheel on a engine dyno.

I have all of the 1996-1997 Camaro/Firebird/Cobra tests and the 285HP LT1's ate the Cobras alive.

good for them
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
Yes, but '96+ cobra's REALLY DO have over 300hp.
Actually, I believe there was some controversy with the DOHC motors after they came out that had to do with them not having the advertised power, which was 305hp and I think 300tq. I dont know what it stemmed from, but my guess is that it was due to the fact that they were indeed getting eaten alive by LT1 cars that were rated at a whopping 20 horsepower less, and even more so by LT4 equipped cars that were rated at the same power level as the Cobra. And Im pretty sure that it was found that the DOHC motors were infact low on power. If I get some time today Ill try to research it a bit. Or maybe someone else knows something I dont
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
A 14.0 for a 96-98 Cobra is above average. Usually they are in the mid to high 14's.

The 99+ N/A Cobras are better than the 96-98 and are in the high 13's at best.

your talking stock right?
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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My friend has a 99 cobra and his best 1/4 in the stock car with just borla exhaust was mid 12's added long tubes and free mods with a 12.01
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Im gonna doubt that, because thats what an 03+ Cobra with just an exhaust and headers runs, and they have just a liiiiittle bit more power than the non S/C'ed Cobras. Ive witnessed a 99 Cobra with an intake and exhaust run no better than high 13's. I just dont see any non S/C Cobra running anywhere near mid 12's with a full exhaust and headers, let alone a 12.01. I think he had some nitrous or something else helping him get there.

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