si's and rsx's are dogs. Theyre slower than sh*t, and I never understood what all the hype was about them. Ive raced a few and smoked both by bus lengths. Of course Im not stock, but the fact that I beat them sooo bad is kinda pathetic.

 

No it is s/c

 

Sure a Type S with all the bolt-ons will take out a stock SS/SC. Modded vs. stock is not fair! With even a measly GM Stage 2, the Balt starts to even the playing field again.

 

My friend had a new SI with all bolt ons... Intake, header, DP, catback, highflow cat. and we where dead even. Roll, dig, everything, dead even. At that point I was stock.....

 

I raced one recently. It was like he didn't even go. I asked him after the race if he heard me beep he said yup and then I took him for a ride in the Slowbalt. Lets just say he was grabbing for the Oh **** handles that weren't there.

 

^ Yea, a cobalt ss/sc will whoop up on thos type S all day long. I raced one with exhaust, headers, some hondadata or something tuned he said and cai. I beat him by almost 5-6 cars easy. Then again I I had stage II exhaust, and cai and I'm running 13.6 1/4th. From a roll my car is a beast trapping at 108. I love racing anything from a roll.

 

I raced a new Si with a CAI and catback exhaust at the track in March and beat his A$$!!!

 

^^^ Well my buddie can drive his SI, maybe the guy at the track cant shift good. He might of had a hondata or AEM tune. There was a AEM sticker on his ECU box?? but he said not tune though,,,, dunno if he was laying or not.

 

I have killed several Type-S and Si's around here. Most have a 50-75 shot and intake, exhaust. I beat all that have tried to race me, rolling or out of the hole. I ran one Wed night, a guy that everyone knows is on spray, and the car is decently quick. I destroyed him off the line, put maybe 4 cars from 0-100. Then pulled him rolling coming back.

 

yeah with a few good bolt ons they are quick but stock they aren't worth the time.

 

Stock for stock versus the SC, yes, they are slower, with the RSX Type-S not too far behind, but with a few mods to the K20, those things are beasts. The aftermarket supports them like unhappily married men support strippers! They get fast quick.

 

yea but what you don't realize is "a few mods" for the k20's cost a bazillion dollars. ******* k-pro alone costs like 900 bucks! for 900 bucks i could get an sct x-cal, an intake, an axle-back, and a dyno tune and still have some left over!

 

We arent talking price here, we are talking potential out the RSX-S. Everycar IMO has tuns of potential, just depends how far you want to go. Obviously some will cost more than others. RSX-S is no different. The k20a is a good motor, with sum $$$ they can make mad power...

 

I lost to an RSX Type-S from a dig when my car was brand new. I was still learning to drive it, I didn't want to rag on it, and I was only boosting 10psi.

He beat me by 2 cars and I was creeping up slowly on him.

About a month ago I raced an 06 Si from a dig and utterly destroyed him. Granted they are different variations of the K20 and the Si is heavier, I think it goes to show that stock for stock a SS S/C > K20 series cars.

Now, slap an M62 on the K20, and you'll be seeing honda/acura taillights every time.

Disclaimer: I have lots of respect for the RSX/Si. They're great cars.

 

I do agree you have to be a baller to mod an RSX

modding Hondas isn't cheap!

 

Really?? And how exactly do you do that?? Just wondering....

 

but to do it the same way other cars do it, it is VERY hard. You can't gut the entire interior of a car and just leave the driver's seat, then say it is stock, and that is what half the hodna racing community does. Modding the rsx-s, especially, is not cheap. Yea they can be pretty fast with all the bolt ons, but for the cost of all their bolt ons (intake, tune from k-pro, exhaust, race header, etc.) which will cost you upward of 2k, i could have gears, a locker, cams, intake, axle back, and a dyno tune and run around 220-230rwhp and 245-250rwtq....Sure the k20's respond well to basic mods, but they are expensive as **** and you have to take that into account.

 

Im gonna call bs on this statement. Lets see, can you say new transmission, new engine internals, new exhaust system, new axels, new etc.... just to support a turbo that will put you into the 11's.

Id have to say thats AT LEAST 5-8k worth of **** youd have to put on the car to make it into the 11's safely and efficiently. Remeber, MOST 4 bangers are built to be econo boxes. You cant just throw a turbo on there and say: " hey im gonna run 30 psi, and my car should run like a champ". It just doesnt work that way.

You would basically have to rebuild the entire car.

 

Do you not see the "Intense Stage 3" in his Signature..?

 

hahaha you think it is easy to get a full interior k20 into the 11's? think again my friend, there are very few. Yea the gutted/slicks and skinnies cars can hit 11's, but seriously, honda people get times a totally different way. in street trim, even in street trim other than some drag radials, turbo rsx-s's pushing the safety of the stock k20 are running mid-high 12's...that's really not that impressive, just in case you didn't know. imho, gutted cars dont count as street cars anymore.

 

as far as I know too, those engines can run i believe around 8-10 psi before safety is compromised.

 

Problem is that most of the 500+ hp rsxs out there have no traction. My friend has a blue type-s with a turbo, 5-8 psi, just recently cracked a piston. Dynoed at 360whp. His father has a red one with a built motor, 24 psi, dynoed at 560+ last time. On a maf-t, not a standalone. The red car can't keep traction unitl 5th gear. The blue car, I outran him when I was stock from off the line to almost 100 mph. I doubt he would be in the 13s in the 1/4.

 

this slip is me vs. SI sedan

 

Can you say BS? Ive been on other RSX forums and the highest they were able to get into is the 12's safely. 560 whp may be a stock block, but there is no way in hell the pistons, gasket, etc are stock. The forums I was on, they were putting down about 330 whp, and they were still having problems with cracked pistons and such.

BTW, a stock ecotec block can handle power well past whatever the stock RSX block can handle.

A orange ls was built with mostly stock components by a shop. Pushed 890 ish HP, and ran a 1/4mi of mid 9's.

Also, the record for fastest 4 banger ever recorded is the ECOTEC. This includes highest top speed, highest 1/4mi, highest trap speed, well you catch my drift.

 

i've seen this thread before, and it is thrown around the internet like a bitch, but this is in NO WAY the norm, and these guys are running extremely high octane race fuel, and most of them don't expect the stock block to last very long like that. What i am telling you is it is common to blow the k20 before making 400whp on a turbo setup, less with a blower. And just because someone "hit" 560whp on the stock engine, doesn't mean it is going to run 10's. It is unlikely that'd withstand some hard track use. The k20 still isn't that impressive imo, it's just that people think it is god because it can make some high numbers with race fuel and alot of boost before it blows, and actually makes some decent numbers with super expensive bolt ons. Sure, it's a pretty good motor, but it gets way too much credit imo. Not trying to rag on the motor, because like i said, it is a good motor, it is just not as amazing as everyone thinks. It's no 2jz, rb_ , ls_, 4v 4.6 or anything, but it gets that kinda rep and i think that is just stupid because it is nowhere near as impressive as any of those class engines.

p.s. from what i see, on club rsx there are only 2 11 sec k20's and they both have built blocks...