well b4 I even start. Im not a big fan of road racing, mostly because of the tickets, but I was talked into it last night for one run. I met up with some friends and they all planned on racing down some abonded industrial(sp) drive. So I was just gunna watch them for some pass time. But some mustang guy was running his mouth about how his v6 has been killin the stage 3 balts. So I ask him whats done to his car and he says "filter".

Fine whatever. Now Im really courious as to what he has so I finally agree to make a pass with him after alot of trashing my car. So well all get to our "meeting spot" for the race and he wasnt kidding about just having a filter. He asked for 1 car length and I give it to him, I really dont care.

Long story short, he gets 1 car length and I win by at least 3. at least thats what he told his friends when we got back. a win is a win so the amount really doesnt matter too much

 

lol my friend has an 05 v6stang with an auto and i raced him when i was stock and beat him so bad haha v6 mustangs suck

 

Yay for overgeneralizations!

 

i think v6 mustangs suck as well. i think they have a bigger v6 than the 350z, look at that comparison hahahahahha

 

they are fords POS! kinda like a cobalt ls haha jk

 

Yeah... let's look at that comparison.

A car that you can get for ~$15k compared to a ~$30k car.

Any other clever comparisons you'd like to suggest?

 

cobalt ss- 2.0liter, mustang v6- 4.0liters mustang makes 210hp and cobalt makes 205 ?? oh yeah mustang v6's are about 20 and the cobalt is about 22

 

haha i would still take a 2004 or 2005 350z which you can find for 16g's maybe even 15 ( my friend just got one an 04 6 speed with 68k on it for 15,400). anyways my point is i would rather have a 4 year old 350z for 16g's and 70k on it than a new mustang v6 for 23 grand or whatever it costs. the 350z will prob last a long time as long as you dont kill it. they have good engine reliability. F.O.R.D stands for FIXED OR REPAIRED DAILY

 

Friends brother leased a v6 07 stang and HATES IT. He saids its the cheapest piece of **** hes owned and actually wished he kept his Nissan Sentra LOL!

 

haha +1 for me baby! ^

 

Well, a 5-speed new V6 Mustang would cost much less than $20K unless it's got a lot of options or if the buyer doesn't know how to haggle. Like I said, more like $15,xxx + t/t/t.

Anyway, I'm not really sure what your point was.


OK, you're welcome to your own opinion, obviously.

On the other hand, generalizations without qualification are worthless.

Oh, and again... brand new V6 Mustangs can be had for ~$15k + t/t/t.


Actually, certain years of the 350Z's VQ35 engine have notoriously common engine failures.

Also, Mustangs are actually quite reliable based on facts. But, what good are facts when you have fanboy assumptions and clever acronyms.


Wow... it would take all of, oh, 30 seconds to find someone who feels the same way about their Cobalt. Isolated incidences mean very little.

 

OMG are serously hurting that your going start bashing Cobalts? Were did I say anything about a cobalt?? Your really that sad that you come to a Cobalt web site to defend a v6 mustang? You don't have much of a life I guess. Get this bro my best friend wants to get rid of his 08 GT hes had for a few months because unless hes going in a straight line it sucks!

 

I beat a 07 V6 mustang at the 1/8mile track, i got him by .02 sec because of reaction time I am not impressed with the newer V6 stangs (DEFINATLY a chick's car) but they can be made to be quick. There is an 03 mustang V6 5 speed running around on the westside of town and that thing is pretty damn fast.

 

you know what sound a v6 stang makes when it starts up? "mmmmmmm gayyy" ahaha

 

Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem. I did not and have not ever bashed Cobalts. Go back and look at all my posts over the 3 years that I've been here. You won't find it. All I said is that I could easily find ONE PERSON who was dissatisfied with their Cobalt, just like you know one person who dislikes their V6 Mustang. It's not bashing in any way, shape, or form.


Secondly, I've been on this site for longer than a lot of the COBALT owners on here because I'm a car enthusiast, and I'm interested in all kinds of cars. I just happen to know a lot about Mustangs, and so if they come up, I'm happy to start a discussion or defend them... especially if the claim is something as baseless, unqualified, and fanboy-ish as "V6 Mustangs Suck." That being said, I do that for a lot of cars. In fact, I defend the Cobalt on MUSTANG sites at times, when ignorant Mustang people start making false claims and ignorant statements about Cobalts. So, I'm not just surfing around to defend V6 Mustangs... I challenge all ignorance when it comes to subjects I know about, and I just happen to know more about Mustangs than anything else.


OK... so your "bro" has never heard of "mods", I guess. With the right parts, the S197 Mustangs are very competitive as far as handling goes.

 

Mustangs suck, I had one[granted it was a '66 fastback], it sucked, my friend has had 2, she hates them both and wants to get rid of them, my friend built a '67 mustang with a chevy 350 small block AND on a '72 nova chassy[he loves fords but even hates mustangs]. V6 mustangs are a joke actually most mustangs are...come on seriously. You shouldn't always have to mod a car to make it good.

 

blaine it is worthless trying to talk to any of them.

 

my question was if he was so confident that he takes out stage 3 cobalts, why did he ask for a length? i would have just laughed, called him a ricer, and said no thanks.

 

Yeah, I have a similiar story about that actually. V6 Mustangs do suck and I'll say it. I raced one yesterday and beat him three times. He kept coming back for more. Whatever generation V6 Mustang is slow and won't beat a stock SS/SC unless the Cobalt driver cant' drive. I've come neck and neck with last gen GT's actually and mines completely stock.

hey wisemanonice where did this happen?? I live in Metro Detroit. I'll race his ass. I hate V6 Mustangs. It wasn't white was it??

 

Now we're talking about classic Mustangs?


Both these statements are completely worthless because you offer no qualification for them.

Let me give you an example of an unqualified statement.

ZR1's SUCK!

This statement is worthless because it is not qualified at all. It could be either true or false.

If I qualified it with: ZR1's SUCK... at transporting a family of 4, then it would be true.

If I qualified it with: ZR1's SUCK... compared to a stock V6 Mustang in the 1/4-mile, then it would be false.

See the difference?


So, V6 Mustangs are a joke? Compared to what? Compared to a Cobalt SS/SC that costs significantly more and is a purpose-built performance variant? Umm... yes, the V6 Mustang is slower, stock vs. stock. Surprise!

You shouldn't always have to mod a car to make it good? What the heck is "good"? What cars are we comparing? Of course you're going to have to mod a cheaper V6 Mustang which was not purposely built for performance to keep up with an SS/SC. That's like saying you shouldn't have to mod a 2.2 to keep up with a Mustang GT. Just like the Mustang V6, the 2.2 costs less and is not built with the same original purpose/demographic in mind. As far as the Mustang GT goes, of course you're going to have to mod a car like the inexpensive, wide-demographic Mustang GT to handle with an S2000 or something. Anyone who buys a ~$22k car with a demographic as wide as the Mustang GT's and expects it to be a world-class handler right out of the box has brought their disappointment on themselves due to ignorance.


Yeah, I guess so.

Some people are open to logical discussions and points, and some would rather dabble in vague, unqualified statements and acronyms than bother with facts and such other annoyances.

 

It would only take one time to run a turbo v6 then there eyes would open.

 

wow soooo many **** talkers in this thread that have NO idea what they are talking about....not even worth qouting who you are, because i am sure you know who you are...

soooooooo ******* stupid!

+2 for being a *******

no kidding, so many **** talkers here think their little 4 banger with a charger on it is sooo badass because it can smoke a v6...

news to them is, the only thing that makes their 4 banger fast is a blower, put a blower on a v6 stang and OMG the mustang would need to give you a few lengths.

 

True...

Heck, my N/A, stock displacement V6 Mustang would give a stock/near-stock SS/SC a good run in the 1/4, probably... and my car isn't even the newest bodystyle... and it cost $13k brand new.

No one is ignorant enough to say that the Mustang or a V6 Mustang, in particular, is some AMAZING car, but unqualified, illogical statements don't do ANY car justice, and serve no other purpose but to spread more ignorance.

 

What?! Does he watch Pinks or something? You don't ask for car lengths in a street race! LOL.

And the V6 mustang shoudl totally lose. I would even give an SS/NA the benefit of the doubt in the race.

Tell the kid to get tuned and get some real boltons. Maybe if he's lucky he'll make 250 crank hp, and you can put that to the wheels on a good day and you're 500lbs lighter!

 

You can talk about all mustangs, and I'm saying v6 mustangs suck performance wise compared to anything in its class I never once compared it to a cobalt, plus the new body style is on the ugly side unless you put some sort of body kit on it nothing too "ricey" though. But I can tell that since you're a diehard mustang defender that nothing anyone says otherwise will change your mind, even if people had hard facts with your requested "qualifications."My friend's v6 mustang didn't cost much less than my cobalt, so I dunno what you're talking about there. And the whole putting a charger on a v6 argument is stupid. Put a charger on a v8 and it'll be the same deal...retarded.