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Old 10-10-2008, 10:30 PM
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08 SS/TC vs 02 Camaro SS

Some people wanna race me with an 02 Camaro SS. They said it was stock, and mine is also stock. Who do you think would win assuming that we were equal drivers?
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Originally Posted by Boost_this
Some people wanna race me with an 02 Camaro SS. They said it was stock, and mine is also stock. Who do you think would win assuming that we were equal drivers?
A stock 02 SS; yeah right..

If it is a stock SS; it'll be a drivers race in the lower RPM's....
Upper RPM's you may pull for a little while until the turbo runs out of air...
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Haha, I think they will be doing more than single gear races..I also doubt a Stock 08 SS's turbo will "run out of air" with factory redline and everything.
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Knew this would come up,lol.I think it would very interesting race tuned tc vs. o2,,but no match for much modding on the 02.I would love to beat the guy parks next to me all the timeThey get 315 or so at the wheels and are no slouch.
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Haha, I think they will be doing more than single gear races..I also doubt a Stock 08 SS's turbo will "run out of air" with factory redline and everything.
Better take another look at that turbo map along with you dyno tables...

Take my (turbo) word for it... you have a better shot in the lower RPM's....

The faster ou go, the more you get walked (unless you shut down aound 120mph)
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come on now an ls1 camaro is good for 13 flat outta the box im sorry but no stock cobalt is gonna run with that. i raced my friends ss/tc last week and i was able to pull him slightly and i get the **** raped outta me against ls1's
next thing you know were gonna be beating Ls2 gtos
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A stock SS/TC is going to get pulled on by an LS1 SS no matter how you cut it. Dig, 40 or 60 roll, top end... Just no.


Take a few corners and it's a different story... Straight line stock vs stock? You're going to lose this one, but you should 'hang' with him..

Get tuned and lay waste to him.
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1998- 2002 Camaro Z28/SS- Weight- 3410 pounds-
Horsepower stock: Z28: 310 crank-SS: 325 Crank-LS1 5.7 Liter -
-Quarter mile: SS- 13.2 sec. 0-60: 5.2 sec.

You decide.
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
1998- 2002 Camaro Z28/SS- Weight- 3410 pounds-
Horsepower stock: Z28: 310 crank-SS: 325 Crank-LS1 5.7 Liter -
-Quarter mile: SS- 13.2 sec. 0-60: 5.2 sec.

You decide.
You guys are too funny I have an LSX block in my F-Body . Even if I had the stock motor the ls1 with a tune and some good gas you would be blown out the fookin water.. LOL silly people thinkin they can take the Camaros LOL Yeah right . F-bodys are king of the street and strip right now and I don't see this changing either .


I doubt its stock dude trust me I own 1.

These cars are 10 second cars out of the box with a tune.



8 second cars if you got the dough

http://www.ryansperformance.com/

HPtuners even has a 10 second tuned Camaro running high 10's
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
You guys are too funny I have an LSX block in my F-Body . Even if I had the stock motor the ls1 with a tune and some good gas you would be blown out the fookin water.. LOL silly people thinkin they can take the Camaros LOL Yeah right . F-bodys are king of the street and strip right now and I don't see this changing either .


I doubt its stock dude trust me I own 1.

These cars are 10 second cars out of the box with a tune.



8 second cars if you got the dough

http://www.ryansperformance.com/

HPtuners even has a 10 second tuned Camaro running high 10's
wtf?

fanboi?
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The 02 SS. I had an 01 which is the same car but yeah, the ss/tc doesn't have a chance.
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stock for stock the TC will loose.

But with a tune it may be a different story..............

My 99 Z28 M6(non SS) with a lid/k&n drop in/slowmaster catback exhaust went 13.29 at amost 107mph at 3450lbs without me in it, weighed at a CAT cert scale.

Dynoed a little over 290 wheel in that trim.

A tuned SS/TC will run about that mph give or take based on what hahn has run on drag radials,

so with a tune I think a TC will outrun a bone stock SS, as the SS's were not that much faster than a base Z28, the SS pkg was mostly appearance, better lsd, wheels, stickers, hood, suspension/etc

had a slightly diff catback and a raised airbox with the ram air hood, motor was essesentially the exact same, but they ran about the same times as a z28 did stock, give or take a mph or so. We all know the 305 hp rating on a base z28 ls1 in those days was underrated, as most cars were dynoing 270 to 280 wheel stock back then.
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Originally Posted by 04compg
A stock 02 SS; yeah right..

If it is a stock SS; it'll be a drivers race in the lower RPM's....
Upper RPM's you may pull for a little while until the turbo runs out of air...
you should be banned.

Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
You guys are too funny I have an LSX block in my F-Body . Even if I had the stock motor the ls1 with a tune and some good gas you would be blown out the fookin water.. LOL silly people thinkin they can take the Camaros LOL Yeah right . F-bodys are king of the street and strip right now and I don't see this changing either .


I doubt its stock dude trust me I own 1.

These cars are 10 second cars out of the box with a tune.



8 second cars if you got the dough

http://www.ryansperformance.com/

HPtuners even has a 10 second tuned Camaro running high 10's


LOL! 10 second cars with a tune?! and i thought your logic in that other thread was funny. you are straight up tripping on acid if you think that is even close to a fact. the ls1 f-bods are quick cars, but not even remotely close to 10 second cars with a tune. with a tune and the other basic bolt ons you'll probably see mid 12's on average. 11's cammed. there are a few cam only f-bodies in the 10's, but not without a VERY aggressive drag setup.

here are the facts kiddies so listen up.

ls1's will run low 13's trapping usually between 106-108 (as the best the average person will ever acheive stock). some have gone 12's and trapped higher, it is possible, but most will run low 13's maybe dipping into 12's. a stock ss/tc will get run down hard by an ls1 from any speed if the person can drive and no tune only ls1 will go anywhere near the 10's.

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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
You guys are too funny I have an LSX block in my F-Body . Even if I had the stock motor the ls1 with a tune and some good gas you would be blown out the fookin water.. LOL silly people thinkin they can take the Camaros LOL Yeah right . F-bodys are king of the street and strip right now and I don't see this changing either .


I doubt its stock dude trust me I own 1.

These cars are 10 second cars out of the box with a tune.



8 second cars if you got the dough

http://www.ryansperformance.com/

HPtuners even has a 10 second tuned Camaro running high 10's
Pretty sure ford strapped a s/c at 8 lbs of boost and rapes the **** outta the f body.. You aint king of ****.. LOL get a reality check and you say mod this and that. do the same to the cobra and bye bye maro and t/a. They stopped making em for a reason. They are a dieing breed.
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500-cubic-inch TFX aluminum hemi with 8000 horsepower


suppose you both have something to say you can beat that with too..

Lets stay on topic please Stock Camaro Vs Cobalt

Thanks
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here we go again arguing about the all mighty LS1 lol...If its stock vs stock should be a drivers race...LS1 cars a fast dont get me wrong...With my Stage 3 ive taken down Trans Am Ls1 , and a 2000 SS from roll races
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as a former Ls1 f-body owner, I can tell you... hope the LS1s you race are stock:

because once a tune and some bolt-ons come into play(or a higher stall on an auto), those cars get straight up nasty, and they LOVE the nitrous, like 150 shot on stock internals...

and then when you see cammed/nitrous cars going low 11s, yeah, you pretty much understand not to **** with modded ones
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
HPtuners even has a 10 second tuned Camaro running high 10's
The car is tin can too

The 08 SS is good , but a horrible time for 98-02 LS1 f-body is better than any time Ive seen a 08-09 SS pull off .
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Originally Posted by BowTieTillIdie
500-cubic-inch TFX aluminum hemi with 8000 horsepower


suppose you both have something to say you can beat that with too..

Lets stay on topic please Stock Camaro Vs Cobalt

Thanks
sorry i just dont like to see horribly wrong information being posted . i'll tell you what, you find me one tune only ls1 that has run 10's without at least 800++ pounds in weight reduction and countless other chassis mods, i'll type in my sig that im your bitch. until then, stop throwing out bs information.
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thank u cakeeater lol...these guys with LS1 thank there cars are just monsters...some are dont get me wrong but no every LS1 car is nasty...Put a STOCK 2003 or 2004 cobra agaisnt a STOCK LS1 an see who wins...Top of the Line Mustang and Top of the line Chevy Camaro SS or WS6 instead of them bashing 4 cyl.
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
The car is tin can too

The 08 SS is good , but a horrible time for 98-02 LS1 f-body is better than any time Ive seen a 08-09 SS pull off .
totally true. i raced a trans am for ***** and giggles and he got me pretty good.
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Originally Posted by YellowBalt06
thank u cakeeater lol...these guys with LS1 thank there cars are just monsters...some are dont get me wrong but no every LS1 car is nasty...Put a STOCK 2003 or 2004 cobra agaisnt a STOCK LS1 an see who wins...Top of the Line Mustang and Top of the line Chevy Camaro SS or WS6 instead of them bashing 4 cyl.
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4

Sounds like a drivers race to me.
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4

Sounds like a drivers race to me.

good find man!
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yeah thats what im saying though get something thats a lil more even match then a bone stock 14 sec cobalt, unless u have a modded ss sc or ss tc that would be a little better race...and most of these LS1 cars are hole shot cars at the track netting them lower 1/4 mile times then a front wheel drive car lol...do a roll race or something be a different story
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4

Sounds like a drivers race to me.
You missed it. The 03/04 cobra has the 4.6L SC'ed V8. Although the 01/02 SS vs 03/04 cobra is a stupid argument.


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