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Old 02-03-2010, 03:54 PM
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08 ss/tc vs rs w/sti swap and an 05 sti

Ok so last night at around 9 p.m. my buddy gives me a call and says theres an impreza rs with an sti swap wants to run me. His mods are full swap trans+engine with full exhaust,intake and an s20g turbo mildly tuned to 14 psi's. Im at 19 psi's. Anyways he says lets run out of the dig, I refused due to cold weather and traction fail so we agreed on a 40 roll, three honks and the balt starts spinning like a bitch, lets give this another try, so we do a 50 roll again on third we take off, traction was just perfect, for a a second or two he had some resistance on me and then I began to take of upto buck twenty I had him by four cars, we returned back to taco ***** to talk and I asked my buddy to run me also for the hell of it, he has a 05 sti with turboback exhaust,external wastegate,intake and an s20g tuned at 15 psi's. We do a 50 roll also, needless to say at the end of the race they were both shocked and surprised on how a stage 1 does against their cars yes I know they were running pretty much stock boost but this race wasnt to prove who's faster tho they just wanted to see how well they do with their new setup, granted from the dig i'd be toast but still im proud just because they gave the slowbalt some credit after the races and thats all I cared about, I hate races from a roll especially something like 50, but they understood my traction issues. In a nutshell it was a fun experience, I was being moddest the whole time. Once they're retuned though im not even gonna bother. Sorry for no vids.
Oh and the route was completely clear and we did this at our own risk without other cars involved.
Old 02-03-2010, 04:34 PM
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nice runs man.. those cars wit the boost upped to correct levels would be deadly lol.... but def good runs... a swapped rs alone is wicked lol
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Why are they only running 14-15psi? Stg 2 on the stock turbos boost up to 20psi all day. Doesn't make sense too me.........
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Roll racing is for the Gays
Old 02-03-2010, 06:08 PM
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^^^ rolls are for dinner......
Old 02-05-2010, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 06SS/SC
Why are they only running 14-15psi? Stg 2 on the stock turbos boost up to 20psi all day. Doesn't make sense too me.........
because they ran into some maf problems that day and they said what the hell lets see how our cars do against other.

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Roll racing is for the Gays
no **** so is racing from the dig on stock tires in winter against someone with awd...point taken right?

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Old 02-05-2010, 12:41 PM
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Losing to a Stg1 TC and they have S20G's? That's depressing. They need better tunes, without a doubt.

Originally Posted by 06SS/SC
Why are they only running 14-15psi? Stg 2 on the stock turbos boost up to 20psi all day. Doesn't make sense too me.........
Probably because they are on Bigger Turbos.

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Nu-uh!
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
Losing to a Stg1 TC and they have S20G's? That's depressing. They need better tunes, without a doubt.



Probably because they are on Bigger Turbos.



Nu-uh!

For sure, once they get the tune squared away I wont bother anymore races with them, 6-8 psi's for those cars and theyre lethal on their setup.
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lol @ psi's

pounds per square inches
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Haha
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Originally Posted by 06SS/SC
Why are they only running 14-15psi? Stg 2 on the stock turbos boost up to 20psi all day. Doesn't make sense too me.........
I am only at 18.5psi on a vf43 with full tbe, ewg, and grimmspeed bcs.

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Originally Posted by craig2185
I am only at 18.5psi on a vf43 with full tbe, ewg, and grimmspeed bcs.
Are you on a mild tune? I have a modded 07 STI..........
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Wanna race?

From reading what you are saying, it seems like you don't understand the dynamics and principles of changing out turbochargers. Just because you can run 20psi on your stock turbo, doesn't mean you can run 20psi on a Super 20G, VF43, or GT35R. It seems like you don't understand that.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP


Wanna race?

From reading what you are saying, it seems like you don't understand the dynamics and principles of changing out turbochargers. Just because you can run 20psi on your stock turbo, doesn't mean you can run 20psi on a Super 20G, VF43, or GT35R. It seems like you don't understand that.
True, one of the reasons the RS couldnt hit more than 14 psi is because the stock injectors maxed out and they already had it raised to the maximum pressure from tunning.
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Even from a "what the engine can handle" point of view.

20psi from a GT35R is a hell of a lot more air than 20psi from a stock turbo. My DSM will handle 30psi from the stock turbo. But, if I throw HX35 on there and try and push 30psi... I'll probably be picking the rods and various other engine components up off of the road.
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP


Wanna race?

From reading what you are saying, it seems like you don't understand the dynamics and principles of changing out turbochargers. Just because you can run 20psi on your stock turbo, doesn't mean you can run 20psi on a Super 20G, VF43, or GT35R. It seems like you don't understand that.
I completely understand the dynamics of turbos. That really wasn't the point. Why would someone upgrade a turbo, just to run 14psi? Makes zero sense. Oh and btw the VF43 is a stock turbo and is what is in my car! Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

And to answer your first question............Sure!
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I have a RS with a WRX swap and I was pulling 12.99 and 13.00's consistently on the stock turbo. I have a 20G myself on it now and I can say even my SS running the pill mod wouldn't touch it. Easily a high 11 second car with that turbo, at least very low 12's even at 15psi! That 20g flows a ton more air at 15psi then the puny stock turbo's at 21-22. I love when people think psi is what matters...


Wanna race, I'll run you on 15psi..
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
I have a RS with a WRX swap and I was pulling 12.99 and 13.00's consistently on the stock turbo. I have a 20G myself on it now and I can say even my SS running the pill mod wouldn't touch it. Easily a high 11 second car with that turbo, at least very low 12's even at 15psi! That 20g flows a ton more air at 15psi then the puny stock turbo's at 21-22. I love when people think psi is what matters...


Wanna race, I'll run you on 15psi..
I never said that PSI was god. I understand just fine how larger turbo's push more air even at lower PSI's. First off, your RS is lighter, **** it's probably gutted. Second, the only thing your RS is probably good for is drag racing. Why does everyone in here want to race me? If you want to go we'll run 'em, it doesn't bother me if I lose. You have to remember, owning a subie isn't all about drag racing... Cutting donuts in a foot of snow, launching from a stop on snow, and being able to drive in almost any condition is what makes it a great car.

Maybe I didn't spell it out completely with what I was meaning.....If you are going to upgrade the turbo, you should upgrade the fuel pump, injectors, intercooler, dp, up, headers, tgv deletes, etc etc.... I just don't understand why people will get an upgraded turbo, run 14-15psi on stock everything else, just to run a mid 12. We have guys on the VF39 tuned on E85, with upgraded injectors, FP, DP, CB that have ran 11.7 at over 116 on the stock turbo! Some people just don't know what they are doing when they mod their car or at least take an approach that is confusing. Most of them end up running worse than before they started.
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Yea, it's only good for drag racing :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Yea, it's only good for drag racing :facepalm:
Agreeing to disagree..................
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Originally Posted by 06SS/SC
I completely understand the dynamics of turbos. That really wasn't the point. Why would someone upgrade a turbo, just to run 14psi? Makes zero sense. Oh and btw the VF43 is a stock turbo and is what is in my car! Are you sure you know what you are talking about?

And to answer your first question............Sure!
Because running a larger turbo at 14psi can net you more power than running a smaller turbo at 20psi. My car makes more power with my current turbo at 10psi, than it did with my supercharger pushing 18psi. And I meant VF23. I think that's what a friend of mine used to have on his WRX. Been about 3 years though, so I don't remember exactly.
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Originally Posted by Billy Baldone
Roll racing is for the Gays
or for people that can't afford to replace their drivetrain parts every week
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Originally Posted by 06SS/SC
Are you on a mild tune? I have a modded 07 STI..........
No not really. I hold that pretty much till redline.

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Because running a larger turbo at 14psi can net you more power than running a smaller turbo at 20psi. My car makes more power with my current turbo at 10psi, than it did with my supercharger pushing 18psi. And I meant VF23. I think that's what a friend of mine used to have on his WRX. Been about 3 years though, so I don't remember exactly.
This is true. I bet he was running a vf22
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That sounds more accurate. VF22 or 23, I don't remember, and I can't find the video that I used to have of him racing a Stg3 SRT4... it was listed in the video.
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
or for people that can't afford to replace their drivetrain parts every week
true usually its people preference due to their advantage thats why I stick to roll racing for now unless i run into a skittle or a speed3 maybe a civic once in a while. But still roll racing is much less stress and pressure on your cars drivtrain and motor. Call me gay for that if you want. Fwd dig racing is such a fail anyways, especially on stock tires, big no
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